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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....[/quote]

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

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Listing this without listing data on accidents or fatalities isn’t that useful. 
Traffic accidents, injuries, and fatalities are FAR higher in ward 7 than 3. This isn’t the racist “gotcha” that you think it is.

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[b]Where's the evidence that traffic cameras reduce accidents?[/b] DC has increasing ticketing by almost 10 times. Where's the corresponding reduction in traffic deaths? [/quote]

The evidence was provided to you several pages back. But you reject it because it destroys your thesis. You are this website’s most boring broken record.[/quote]

No one has provided any evidence. That's the issue. [/quote]

If there were evidence, it would be obvious by now. The city has increased ticketing by nearly 1000 percent over the past decade, and issues enough tickets each year to hit every driver in the city multiple times, and yet accident rates are no better than they were 10 years ago. [/quote]

it's not just that handing out a billion traffic tickets isn't making a difference, it's literally everything dot is doing isn't making a difference. [/quote]

Another factor is that, during COVID people started driving through DC like bats out of hell.  Dialing that back requires significant action.[/quote]

I'll take things that never happened for $200, Alex.

The number of speeding related deaths in DC is pretty much the same every single year since forever. [/quote]

Where in the world do you actually live?

Almost all traffic deaths are caused by speed, regardless of whether speeding is listed as the "primary cause" by the attending officer or not. I believe the physics behind this have been explained to you many times over the past few years, but yet you continue to peddle nonsense.[/quote]

That is not true. There's a whole range of reasons for traffic deaths. Typically about one-third involve speeding. [/quote]

I trust that you understand the distinction between speed and speeding even if you pretend not to.

A driver can veer off I-95, hit a barricade at 70mph, and die. Speeding was not a factor in the crash, but speed sure as he was.

But we're talking about DC after all and there are only a handful of DC roads where the speed limit exceeds 25mph. Impacts at 25mph or less are rarely fatal, but the probability of a road user dying as a result of a crash increases markedly at speeds above that. It is thus highly probable that speeding was a factor contributing to any fatalities that occur on roads with speed limits of 25mph or less.[/quote]

Yeah, that's like saying leaving your home is a contributing factor to traffic fatalities because none of the fatalities would have happened if people had just stayed home. [/quote]

What the hell is this nonsense? You sound like the kind of person who would argue that short skirts cause sexual assault.

Pedestrians should have the right to walk down the street or - heaven forbid - cross the street without having their lives threatened by those who speed. whether those drivers are focused on the road, actively texting, staring at their Apple Play screen, or whistling Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah of their a$&holes.

And the DC government has a responsibility to uphold the safety of its residents and those visiting the city. Which it does by using speed cameras to deter speeding.

If you need evidence of the difference that speed cameras make, Google “James Evert Anderson”. James was a 16 year old who lived in Kensington, MD. He was killed on Sunday while crossing University Boulevard West. There was a speed camera at the location, which was recently removed. One local resident reports that, in the absence of the camera, drivers regularly speed at “50 or 60 on a 30 mph road”. Had drivers stuck to the speed limit, James Evert Anderson would still be alive today.

The only problem, as others have mentioned, is that there aren’t enough speed cameras. DC has about 8,000 city blocks and less than 500 speed cameras, so drivers are free to speed across 99.9% of the city without any plausible risk of being sanctioned for their speeding. That is just nuts.[/quote]

Putting traffic cameras everywhere, giving everyone a ticket for everything, and making traffic a nightmare has not done anything at all to reduce traffic deaths. Look at the data. [/quote]

So what is your solution? Traffic stops? Road design? If they die they die?[/quote]

Do you worry about murders too? Because murders are way more common than dying in traffic accidents. [b]Traffic deaths in this city are rare. They're also inevitable.[/b] If you're uncomfortable with that, maybe you should move. A small town might be more your speed. [/quote]

Absolute nonsense. Helsinki, which has a population almost identical to DC's, just went a year without a single traffic death: https://www.politico.eu/article/helsinki-no-traffic-death-roads-eu-accident-finland-driving-transport/

Unlike solving murders, we know very well how to reduce fatal traffic accidents. Yet people continue to die needlessly because ghouls like you believe the convenience of your commute is more important than other people's lives.[/quote]

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