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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DD is at an Ivy playing her sport.  She got zero financial aid.  She's now a sophomore and has been a really hard road.  She doesn't get much playing time and doesn't get along with her teammates very much.  The students at the school are a little weird because they are so so smart and she still working on making friends.  The grass is not always greener.  In hindsight, I would have encouraged her skip to D1 and just go in-state as a regular applicant.  [/quote]

this is the problem when Ivies and other top schools relax the academic standards too much for athletes. Then if the kid doesn’t continue with the sport then they also don’t really fit in/match the level of the rest of the kids who got in on academic merit.[b] This was my experience at one of the Ivies. [/b][/quote]

You weren't smart enough but somehow got in?

Academic standards at the Ivies are relaxed somewhat but still plenty high enough. I have to call Bull.[/quote]

No, I went to Harvard, not as an athlete. Two of my freshman roommates were varsity athletes. I have other friends of friends/ roommates who were athletes. you almost never saw athletes in STEM majors. Athletes suffered from an image as “dumb jocks” who couldn’t keep up intellectually or in other extracurricular pursuits.  They just kind of kept to their own cliques. [/quote]

I guess that we are lucky then because my pre med kid running at Brown doesn’t feel like a “dumb jock” at all.[/quote]
Without running, kid would not be at Brown. Or do you insist kid would have gotten in anyway?[/quote]

JHC, you people really don't get it. Maybe he wouldn't be at Brown without the running, but that doesn't mean he can't thrive there. People have this notion that the educational environment at the most elite schools is navigable only by true geniuses, but that simply isn't true. [/quote]

Also, some of the athletes - especially some of the distance runners and fencers - are also academic stars in high school and college.[/quote]
They are white; it is affirmative action for whites. For example, Brown:
19/19 on Brown XC are white. Don’t believe me? Take a look. It’s downright embarrassing…
https://brownbears.com/sports/mens-cross-country/roster[/quote]

You do realize you could get your non-white or poor kid into XC. It's not some easy glamorous sport and requires almost nothing to start training. You won't do that because it's much harder than some BS EC.[/quote]

And the times are the times for XC and track so it's not the political who-does-your-club-coach know game that can happen in other sports.[/quote]

Thank you and yes it's completely objective, but that goes against the narrative the prior poster was painting. Get your kid to run XX:XX and you're golden![/quote]

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