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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If anyone wants to understand why this country doesn't build ANYTHING any more (high speed rail, infrastructure, clean energy, new cities) you just have to listen to these NIMBYs.

Just so disappointing to see a bunch of old people hold the country hostage while more and more people struggle. Typical boomers.[/quote]

THERE IS A TON OF CHEAP LAND IN THE COUNTY...just not in Bethesda or Chevy Chase.

Plenty of middle class homes under 750k. People just think because they make 125k a year they are too good for them[/quote]

The further away homes are from jobs, the more transportation infrastructure is needed. [b]The NIMBY's in this country don't want to expand roads or public transportation, either.
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By all means, go to meetings saying you want to expand into the ag reserve, build out light rail and bus, and widen Darnestown Rd, Georgia Ave, University Blvd, and Connecticut Ave. See how much support you get.[/quote]

If you’d been paying attention, you’d know that upcounty residents, who YIMBYs often paint as being very NIMBY, want more roads. They really wanted M-83 but the YIMBYs on the council voted against it. On top of that, the YIMBYs have bled infrastructure funding with their tax breaks for developers. [/quote]

The downcounty residents are the NIMBY's.. Look how hard they fight the purple line.[/quote]

Case in point: The purple line is getting built. Another YIMBY win. [/quote]

The purple line was tremendously delayed.

And look at M-83. Or the CCT. Or the Montrose Parkway extension.

There hasn't been any significant change in zoning to encourage increasing density at scale. This ZTA demonstrates that quite well. You're up in arms over a relatively small increase in density in only about 1% of the lots in the county.[/quote]

None of this changes the fact that the YIMBYs have been on the winning side of every major land use vote at the council.

The only thing I’m up in arms about is YIMBYs’  refusal to take any responsibility for the state of the county’s economy and housing market. If you keep winning you actually have to fix things. Smart growth hasn’t fixed the housing market or the budget or economic growth or any of the other things that have been promised over the years. It’s made them worse. [/quote]

The county hasn't pursued growth. Everything gets wrapped up in battles limiting what ultimately happens. So we just end up with bits of infill development where there happens to be land, some redevelopment of strip malls,   and some sprawl mostly up 270.

Look at this case. We started with something that was already limited in scope and density, and then the proposal was watered down to the point that very few lots can take advantage of the changes.[/quote]

I agree that the county hasn’t pursued growth. YIMBY policies have rewarded rent seekers, so the market seeks rents instead of growth. [/quote]

To a certain extent, I agree. There's been too much of a focus on large-scale, high density projects which, as you've noted, tend to be rentals. Zoning and regulations have been set up to encourage that, too. We need to be doing more to facilitate and encourage construction of things like townhomes and duplexes, which are more likely to be occupant-owned.

I don't think rentals are bad- there are a lot of situations where that is going to be the right choice. But we should have more opportunities for affordable home ownership, too.

That's what I liked about the earlier AHS proposal. It would have made it easier to build moderate density housing without them having to be part of large-scale projects in limited parts of the county. That's the only path for creating more owner-occupied housing stock without sprawl.[/quote]

The vast majority of people would rather own. Policy should enable that. The AHS is more likely to be more rentals, probably more than half of anything that gets built. [/quote]

The vast majority of people would rather be rich.  And, just as lotteries/casinos tantalize with that individual-but-unlikely possibility, draining wallets for most, and reaping profit from the net negative to the populace as a whole, salesman-politicians will keep baiting the majority of the electorate with this thought to enable their setting the rules for even greater consolidation of wealth for their donor/buddy/emolument-proximate-business-interest class, foisting negative externalities upon smaller minorities one action at a time to avoid meaningful backlash.[/quote]

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