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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can’t really speak to the debate on rankings, but I have a kids that is a senior in the JDP program at WM/StA. I get the impression that while WM kids compete for a spot in the JDP after acceptance to WM, it’s the opposite at StA. There, the JDP is treated as a first semester away option for the more competitive majors. I will also add that there is a high level of academic rigor. My husband and I went to great schools (UVA) and my daughter’s workload at WM was tougher than anything I remember at UVA. She still did quite well first year (3.9) and said it was hard, buy not very hard. Her first semester at StA was very hard. The writing, research and grade expectations were quite different. Essays that would be easy As at WM were C+ to Bs there. She learned to write A papers there but it was an adjustment, both in terms of the writing style, level of effort, and depth of research. Anyway I am glad she went there because her writing and research skills improved quite a bit. And I understand if you go there outright, your first two years of grades count in terms of getting the credits to move into honors, but do not count towards their equivalent of a GPA. All this to stay that UK school have very different expectations and grading systems compared to US schools and it is quite an adjustment. I recommend anyone considering these schools also consider if their kid is ready for that adjustment on top of the adjustment of college generally. [/quote] Great points. Which one off the JDPs was she in? Obviously different majors will have different requirements. The advantage of the sub honors years is that while the grading is much harder than the typical US essay review, those grades do not count for GPA. Only the 3rd and 4th year grades will count. You still have to pass. But you can pass with a 7/20. This gives a lot of American kids the time to adjust to the tougher grading and writing requirements before getting to the 3rd year.[/quote]
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