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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]BCC parent here. Our college counselor said go for AP for strongest applications and that the top 20 have difficulty figuring out what to do with IB applicants. AP may be a scam like past posters say but it is the way it works. [/quote]

BCC parent here. Our kid did full IB and it was a good experience for itself and also had good success woth college admissions.

If it’s really true a college counsellor said  T20 colleges “don’t know what to do” with IB DP candidates then that says more about tue college counselor than IB. [/quote]

Speaking of BCC.

You know IB Math is crap when the first year of the Math HL AA is … AP Calculus BC! I wonder why.

Also, no IB Chemistry at higher level offered.

If you want to do STEM, go full AP don’t waste your time with IB busy work like art, theory of knowledge, creativity activities and extended essay.[/quote].

I mean I don’t really disagree that if you are a stem-focused kid then the DP might not be for you but even assuming you are right that IB and AP math curricula overlap, I’m not sure why that indicates IB is crap?[/quote]

What does it indicate to you? Virtually every decent IB program like RMIB makes AP Calculus BC a prerequisite.

If IB Math prepares students well, there would be no motivation to change to Calculus BC.

But since IB math is not very good and many incoming students are accelerated in math, it makes most sense to keep them on the AP path and do IB Math in 12th grade only because it’s required for the diploma.[/quote]

I have no idea what you are trying to say but if you think everyone should take BC calculus in 10th grade then I’m not that interested [/quote]

Let me clarify it for you. At BCC, the IB Math  consists of one year of AP Calculus BC, and one year of IB Math HL, instead of the typical  two years of IB Math HL.

Interested or not, at BCC you can’t do IB Math HL without taking AP calculus BC. That’s because the IB curriculum is lacking and needs to be supplemented.

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Can't students take 2 years of SL IB Math? Or is that level not offered in IB programs at MCPS' IB high schools?[/quote]
No, they are one year classes.

[quote]
 SL courses are recommended to have at least 150
hours of instructional time, and HL courses are recommended
to have at least 240 instructional hours.
In most cases both SL and HL courses consist of the same ed-
ucational aims, core syllabus and curriculum and assessment
models. HL courses typically also include a range of additional
elements designed to allow students to explore areas of inter-
est within the subject in more depth.[/quote]

https://www.ibo.org/globalassets/new-structure/programmes/dp/pdfs/slhl-brief-en.pdf

IB HL math covers several years of math -- from algebra to calc.  Here's a good explanation:

https://www.quora.com/How-different-or-similar-are-IB-Math-SL-and-AP-Calculus-AB

[quote]- IB Math SL: Covers a broader range of topics, including algebra, statistics, and functions, in addition to calculus. It also includes a strong emphasis on mathematical reasoning and communication.
- AP Calculus AB: Primarily focuses on differential and integral calculus. It is more specialized and in-depth in calculus topics compared to IB Math SL.

- IB Math SL: While it includes calculus, it also covers other areas of mathematics, providing a more holistic view of the subject.
- AP Calculus AB: Goes deeper into calculus concepts and prepares students for more advanced calculus courses in college.
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Above is why kids also take BC Calc.  IB is about broader thinking.  AP Calc just focuses on calc.

BTW, my kid was at RMIB, took HL IB math, as well as AP BC calc -- both exams, got a 7 and 5 respectively (also took multivariable calc and got 800 math SAT score). They are very strong in math and is a dual math/CS major in college, now a senior (4.0 - I put that there to show that DC is really a strong math student so that people realize that strong math students can also go the IB route).[/quote]

The strong math students in IB take starting with 9th: Precalculus, AP Calculus BC, Multivariable, IB Math HL.

In AP they take Precalculus, AP Calculus BC, AP Statistics. There is the option for post AP classes from Multivariable Calculus, Linear Algebra and Differential Equations. If you’re interested in math that’s a better route instead of reviewing the quadratic equation in IB Math HL, which btw is not about broader thinking, it just a review of the lower level math like numbers, algebra, geometry. It’s like integrated math classes, but done poorly.

Sure strong math students can go the IB route at RMIB where they’ll load on AP and post AP/IB classes like Multivariable. The strong math students taking the IB route at Kennedy end up in a bad spot exhausting the most advanced IB Math SL offering in 10th grade.

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