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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]According to many, women can’t be trusted to assert their desires or boundaries because we'll invariably lie about what we want in order to please other people. How can we consent to anything? Sex? Medical treatments? Bank loans?
Our entire social contract operates on the premise that adults are strong enough to choose their choices, no matter the ambient pressure from men. If half the world's adult population are actually hapless, helpless, fickle, fragile, and much too tender to perform even the most basic self-advocacy everything starts to fall apart. Women can cancel any agreement we make under "I didn't mean it though."
He is complete scum and I can't assert that enough but she should not have stayed in that situation for years, texting and flirting with him to curry favor. It makes it seem like she just wanted some money.[/quote]

is this the same woman who stripped naked and got into a the garden bathtub?? b/c yeah the minute she did that she consented, and yes - she took back that consent BUTTTTT in this "kink" community that gets off on fantasies of non consensual sex (rape?? okkkkk, sick f---s, the lot of them, not an ok fantasy, u need mental help and therapy if you get off on this) how in the name of hell is he supposed to know that she isnt just playacting the rape fantasy- she is sitting naked in a bathtub in his garden, instead of - youknow doing what a normal person would do and noping teh hell out of that house and running to the docks and blocking palmer's number? This young women worked at a perfume store, id think retail is better than being a sexually abused nanny to the rich and famous.

This is why people are focusing on the women- there will always be predators- but women are smart and capable of protecting themselves from these kind of predators- women are capable of withstanding grooming behaviors, we can identify them and are are responsible for our choices in putting up with creepy behavior. kids are not but grown women are, and if you have been a victim of abuse you shoudl be even. more strong and gritty in being like - no not going through this shit again!" when you encounter creepy people. having trust issues is a GOOD thing, it keeps you safe, acting like life is some YA novel with a "found' family of shiny happy pople that randomly choose you is beyond stupid and anyone who is throiwing cold water of reality at you so you make good protective choices is doing the lords work ok??  rich people dont want to be anyones friend- anytime someone so much out of your sphere gives you attention you should be analyzing why and what they can get from you.  [/quote]

All of this might go to whether he’s criminally or even civilly liable.  But none of this is really a defense to whether he’s a disgusting, bad person.  Which he is.

By comparison. I remember reading the account of the women that hooked up with Azis Ansari and thinking he basically did nothing wrong  (other than seemingly be bad at sex) and she needed to own her choices.  This seems totally different to me.  Gaiman just seems so gross and like the kind of guy that takes advantage in every way possible.  [/quote]

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