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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How did a 13-year-old girl end up at an awards show after party?  [/quote]

exactly, where were her parents?  [/quote]

This is a re-filing or an amendment of a previously filed lawsuit and I read the original when it came out. In 2000, this 13 yr old who lived in or near NYC got a ride to Radio City Music Hall to try to crash the VMAs because she didn’t have a ticket. She’s a local. She tried to literally walk in but was denied so she started asking all the limo drivers of the limos parked in front if they could get her in and she happened to speak with Combs driver.

That driver said he couldn’t get her into the VMAs but what he could do was get her into Combs after party if she wanted and she said sure, got in the limo and he drove her out to Combs house where they were started the party. She said she drank some alcohol, started to feel bad and went into a room to lay down. That’s where Combs and perhaps Jay Z found her, etc.

What happened after the attack was that she was able to flee the house NAKED, a driver outside gave her some clothes and a ride to a gas station where she went inside, asked to use their phone and called her father. There were not cell phones back then.

It’s a horrible story. Sounds like a teen who impulsively tried something a bit nuts without her parents permission and it spiraled out of control and without cell phones or tracking she could call for help and no one knew where she was. [/quote]

Why wasn’t Jay Z charged with a crime in 2000?[/quote]

Shame and confusion. The girl was drunk and didn’t know if she consented or not and probably self doubt and blame and didn’t want her parents angry and freaked out at her for sneaking out to a party at 13.

Women that are raped rarely report it the day after because the process of getting a rape kit and going to court and having family aware is all dehumanizing and perturbing.

We do need a better system. We can’t prove 25 years later that she’s telling the truth or lying. Any forensics are long gone. All we have is her story and his story and the truth.

I am prone to believe her though because 1999 VMA after party is a very specific location and the driver of Diddy’s can also be confirmed as well if he’s still living. [/quote]
Surely her father would have noticed his naked daughter when he picked her up from the gas station and called the police. [/quote]

Called the police? Have you ever dealt with the police? I have, including for sexual assault and stalking and they're about the least helpful people you could reach out to in a moment of crisis. I'm a wealthy, white WASP too I can't even imagine the fear with anyone with "complicating factors."[/quote]
Well I’m not a wealthy, white wasp, and yes I’ve called the police when I was assaulted. GtFOH with your BS. I have a report. That’s the least a father could do when he finds his daughter half naked, claiming a sexual assault. Did he take her to the hospital to make sure she was okay. A rape swab. A prescription for a morning after pill. The nerve to think a parent would not do that near minimum. Surely there’s some evidence that this actually happened and it’s not a free for all money grab.

Not saying it did happen, but I’m not saying or convinced it did happen. It’s like people who jump on a metro bus after a collision and claim they were hurt in the collision and want a quick payout. Yet these people were no where around when the collision happened and real victims were hurt. [/quote]

Were you actually an adult in 1999? The morning after pill only got approved by the FDA two months before the 1999 VMAs. You think dad was tracking that recent availability? I think there was also even more stigma then for girls/women about sexual assault (still is, of course).[/quote]

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