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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Georgia, Florida, UVA, UNC are all public Ivies. [/quote]First, that's an empty term. Second, the only public university that's anything like an Ivy League university is William & Mary. Third, the strongest public university in the southeast isn't any of those; it's Georgia Tech. [/quote]

Not above UVA and UNC.  And I wouldn’t say about WM, just different.[/quote]

There are two lists of “Public Ivies”.

One was published in 1985. The author, a Yale alum who had served as a director of admissions at several universities, travelled the U.S. examining institutions and selected eight public colleges he thought comparable to the Ivy League. These are the public ivies (bolded) and the runners up (not bolded) from his list:
[b]- College of William & Mary (Williamsburg, Virginia)
- Miami University (Oxford, Ohio)
- University of California (applies to the campuses as of 1985: Berkeley, Los Angeles, San Diego, Irvine, Davis, Santa Barbara, Santa Cruz, and Riverside)
- University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
- University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
- University of Texas at Austin
- University of Vermont (Burlington)
- University of Virginia (Charlottesville)[/b]
- University of Colorado Boulder
- Georgia Institute of Technology (Atlanta)
- University of Illinois Urbana–Champaign
- New College of Florida (formerly New College of the University of South Florida, it became an independent part of Florida's State University System in 2001)
- Pennsylvania State University (University Park)
- University of Pittsburgh
- State University of New York at Binghamton (also known as Binghamton University)
- University of Washington (Seattle)
- University of Wisconsin–Madison

This is the list people are usually referring to when talking about "Public Ivies".

There was another list published by different authors in 2001 which named many, many, more "Public Ivies". This list included every institution on the original list except U.C. Riverside and U.C. Santa Cruz:
Examples of schools on the 2001 list that weren't on the original list:
- University of Arizona (Tucson)
- University of Georgia (Athens)
- University of Iowa (Iowa City)

It's important to note that the original list placed importance on non-educational factors and educational factors, while the newer list focused more explicitly on factors directly related to quality of education. So while institutions like the University of Arizona (Tucson) and the University of Georgia (Athens) did make the second list, entitled “The Public Ivies: America's Flagship Public Universities”, they did not make the original list which was explicitly focused more on factors like institutional age, campus traditions, campus culture, etc. The second list was more focused on identifying “leading public institutions" than ones that were similar to Ivies in culture, age, campus feel, etc. They were looking for “America's Flagship Public Universities”, not necessarily those which bore the most resemblance to those in the Ivy League. Different goals, different lists.[/quote]

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