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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't know why this is so hard to grasp, or why this needs to be parsed nine ways to Sunday: 1) UVA is a competetive school for which to be admitted. 2) Given 1), the way to make yourself stand out is to have a stellar résumé. 3) The way to have a stellar résumé is to take the most challenging classes your school offers and do well in them. 4) And yes, that may include pursuing a foreign language as far as you can. That's it, that's the formula.[/quote] +1 Only thing I would add is to be in top 5% of class, and yes, UVA figures it out even if your school doesn’t rank. Signed, Mom to 2 current Hoos and one who recently graduated [/quote] How exactly does UVA calculate rank? Do you have any proof or are you guessing like everyone else?[/quote] The PP is guessing. Admission is holistic. They admit whomever they feel like admitting.[/quot DP. It's quite easy to calculate and bear in mind that the top students at the high school are being compared against one another for admission so if course they figure out the rank. This is how they do it: 1) The high school counselor sends a high school class profile with the transcript. These profiles are readily available online, usually under the high school's website. The profile covers everything from demographics of the senior class to the types of courses offered, AP and Honors, numbers of junior and senior students taking those courses and covers honor societies and numbers of student participants at every level By virtue of this profile, the college contract reader can determine the rank by comparing the top (most rigorous courses) to the student''s transcript (list of rigorous courses taken and grade) offered by the high school to the portion of the profile that shows how many students took or are taking to course to the student's GPA and viola! you have a rough estimation of the the rank of all the applicants in that particular traunche (EA/ED/RA, etc.). It takes the reader about two minutes to do this. They might also refer to the stats of the kids in preceding years from that high school. 2) the profile also has the class breakdown as to GPA and percentage of students receiving those grades. A student with a 4.60 in a school that taps out at 4.60 is the valedictorian. 4.59 is salutatorian; 4.52 is 3rd or 4th 3) In the Virginia college university package from the counselor, she or he provides a letter of recommendation (therein will be a lot of hints to rank: "Student A is one of the finest students our high has ever seen and has been a star in his class" (the counselors, of course, know the rank.) Some counselors just outright give the rank 4) similarly, the teacher letters of recommendation will give the rank especially in the most rigorous courses "Of the three in my multilinear calculus class, Peter easily beat the competition" 5) the student's own resume will indicate rank by mention of honor societies and date when achieved. Same the mention of Dean's list and other honors groups 6) Most Colleges and University AO offices divide the United States up into groups of contiguous states and assign field officers to them. It's the job of the field officer to know everything about the high school. The College Counselor aids in this and they pass stident information back and forth. Rank is figured out after hiighlighting GPA, and test scores. The readers then move on to flush out the areas of importance to the college: legacy (if still permitted (recently outlawed in Virginia public school); URM, first generation, full-pay, extraordinary awards won, Notable ties to the school, unique musical talent that the college needs and so on. The essays are not read at this point. The file then goes on to a second reader or assistant in the office for further quick reviews and ultimately to the Regional Rep. And after all if that she still wants to know rank, she emails her friend, the high school counselor This is why your high school can say "we don't rank" to you but with a wink. [/quote]
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