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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP, I’m an atheist and agree with you to a large extent. I am personally and politically supportive of full abortion rights—but I live in reality. Abortion is scary, sad and unfortunate for most people in the world. It should be rare. It shouldn’t be glorified.

The left’s insistence that none of this can be said out loud cost us Roe. And telling every woman who empathizes with a fetus that she is against women’s rights—when viability is getting earlier and earlier…it makes no sense. Anyone who has had a miscarriage or seen a fetal scan knows it’s natural to attach emotion to abortion. When the tiny percentage of women who really don’t feel anything regarding abortion (Chelsea handler etc) become the dominant voice, you lose credibility. [/quote]

No one made Chelsea Handler the spokesperson for all women. She is free to share her experience. Which is very different than the experience of millions of other women. We all have our own individual circumstances. 
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DP but I think you might be missing the point. Of course we all have our own individual circumstances. Most women’s understanding about their bodies, their rights, their feelings about pregnancy is deep and nuanced. But the narrative that goes out into the world is dominated by the loudest voices, even if those voices are not nuanced and do not represent the more normative experiences. And that is ultimately hurting us.

That is happening with a lot of issues that people care about, not just this one. [/quote]

Disagree.  I think many women know exactly how critical it is to protect reproductive rights.  They don't actually need any messaging at all from either side and they don't necessarily even listen to any loud voices.

That is why  election after election since the fall of roe has gone more blue than the clueless loud voices predicted.  The voters are showing up and quietly going about their voting business and trying to protect critical rights.  It will happen once again in November.[/quote]

I don’t think that poster was referring to women needing messaging. Women already know. It’s the people with less skin in the game (men, older people, rich people) who need to hear better messaging. When the loudest voice they hear is someone like Handler, that is going to affect how they feel about it.[/quote]

What kind of men, older people, rich people are hearing Handler more loudly than actual policy makers, the women presumably in their lives? Come on. Messaging isn’t the problem. We did it that way for decades in which women’s access to abortion was systematically stripped away. And now we’re just mad and tired of being nice and going to vote accordingly. Deal with it. Not going to make ourselves small so that men can feel big, and hopefully agree to give us our rights. You’re asking us to put on a smile after they slap us across the face. Always with the victim blaming.  Enough! [/quote]
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