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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Be glad the cutoff is 9/1.

In New York State, it’s 12/31.   And people still redshirt summer boys at least, so the gap is huge.  [/quote]

That’s too much. Public schools really need to mandate it. Anything that is 6months from the cutoff should require a medical/learning condition of some sort that they are receiving services for. [/quote]

Nonsense. You parent your kids, let other people parent theirs. [/quote]

The point is that it affects others. It affects the class dynamic. It changes the age and size range etc in the class.[/quote]

Yes, but it affects the dynamic positively. Like in Montessori school when there’s a 3 year age gap between children in the classroom. The older kids teach the younger ones and in the process they gain leadership skills! Sounds like a win-win to me.[/quote]

This is way over-optimistic.

Perhaps some redshirted children are more mature in positive ways, wind up serving as leaders and example. Perhaps. Some percentage.

But anyone who has actually seen time in K and 1st grade classrooms knows that often the "maturity" kids display at these ages isn't positive. It's stuff like introducing aggressive and competitive dynamics at a time when teachers are often trying to teach social-emotional skills. It's kids talking about "dating" and sex with peers because of things they heard from older siblings or more mature TV/movies that most parents wouldn't allow a 5 yr old to watch. It's kids segregating into friend groups earlier than is typical, and younger kids being left behind. It's teasing younger kids for crying in class or still playing with dolls. Because, again, they are 5 years old and are developmentally normal, but they are in classrooms with more "mature" kids who are eager to demonstrate their maturity by asserting dominance and teasing.

And as kids get older, these dynamics can get worse, and classrooms with a large number of late redshirts (spring and even winter birthdays held back and starting K at 6 or 6.5) [b]can see some very bad dynamics emerge around puberty[/b].

Montessori is different because their classrooms are set up for larger age ranges, and also because the families who self-select for Montessori tend to be more willing to invest in helping their kids develop the social-emotional maturity that kids need in that environment. Montessori schools often also counsel out schools with behavioral issues or special needs, and are less willing to put up with aggressive behavior from older children because they think it will benefit their school's athletic programs later on (which is a deal some public schools make when they permit rampant redshirting of kids well outside the typical redshirting bubble).[/quote]

Another reason not to start kindergarten at four. Which means redshirting is the responsible parenting choice, not something that should be restricted.
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