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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.[/quote]

If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.[/quote]

Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time. [/quote]
I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us. [/quote]

No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states.[/quote]

You sound insane and irrational, lashing out at the PP like this. That was uncalled for.

Gaza is indeed probably the most important issue for some people. Nothing the PP said implies otherwise. But Gaza is unlikely to be a big domestic vote-mover, based on literally years of voter history. Foreign affairs are almost never a major election driver, unless there are significant US troops committed.

Dobbs, on the other hand, has moved votes as recently as last year. The PP is correct that Dobbs may drive young voters to the polls. But Gaza is unlikely to drive a lot of voters to the polls unless there is a significant break with historic precedent.

Please be rational. [/quote]

Please eat a pile dogshit, thanks.

The danger of the smug-assed Democratic consensus that you and PP typify is that you won’t acknowledge that Gaza may well depress turnout where it’s most needed - specifically right now in Michigan. Ignore it at your peril (you will).[/quote]

Dp- pandering to a holes like you, means losing the middle ( and frankly the people I actually agree with and care about)
So F off and die? 
Xo[/quote]

DP. You moderates are the ones that ensure Trump’s victory, roe vs wade being over turned, the removal of the Ivy League Presidents, never ending wars in the Middle East to support Israel, etc. You are the ones who sell out this country at every opportunity. How many US servicemen have to die for Israel? It is beyond crazy to think that the US must continue to support Israel endless killing, terrorist attacks, stealing of land, assassination and antagonizing Iran for a Jewish state?

Every wonder why you all lost to Trump. :lol: Why you are unable to generate a majority in the senate or house even with Roe! No one votes for moderates. [/quote]

DP. Well this is some seriously crazy rewriting of history. I didn’t realize there was a wing of the far left that thinks Clinton didn’t win swing states because she wasn’t crazily far left [i]enough[/i] but I guess that tracks with how insane progressives are these days. It is wildly delusional to believe that not going even more left-wing would have won the critical swing state suburbs but you keep on keeping on. Wild. [/quote]

Maybe Clinton should have blamed the Jews for everything like PP seems to be doing.[/quote]

That does appear to be the progressive party line now. We just didn’t have enough Jew-blaming in 2016 so let’s double down for 2024. [/quote]

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