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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The baby was left in the car seat on a street in SE but the car is still missing. Curious about where/with who? https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/4-month-old-girl-found-after-being-taken-in-georgetown-car-theft/3508529/ Thank goodness she is safe.[/quote] I hope these guys get charged with kidnapping and child abuse, and get put away for a long time. [/quote] Sounds like these guys are on the loose joyriding in the jeep? At our councilmembers safety walk the USAO representative told us they can't charge carjackers cos when four sets of prints are found they don't know who the jacker was.. COMPLETE IMPUNITY and zero solutions offered.[/quote] Hope you told them what utter bullshit this was! 4sets of fingerprints? Arrest and charge them all, unless there is a reason for that fingerprint in the car. Are these people STUPID? [/quote] I’m a former prosecutor so I will take a crack at explaining why it is difficult to charge someone with carjacking based on fingerprints alone. When a car gets jacked by say several people who are masked and wearing generic dark clothing, the lookout for the suspects is obviously weak and the victim won’t be able to make an ID of people that did the carjacking. Then say the car is recovered the next day abandoned. The vehicle is printed and you get some hits off the prints. [b]All you can prove is that the people whose prints were in the vehicle had been inside it at some point. [/b]You cannot prove that those people jacked the vehicle. You also can’t prove that they went joyriding in it after it was jacked because it was jacked with a key, so there wasn’t anything that would indicate to a passenger in the vehicle that the car was stolen. If, say the jackers weren’t masked and the victims got a look at the suspects, you can definitely put the people whose prints were found inside the car in photo arrays and show them to the victims and maybe they ID the jackers. [/quote] Thank you, I appreciate your comment. But, seriously?? I’m sorry, but this should be enough(the bolder). What do you mean WHO was doing the carjacking? How is this truly relevant? They obviously did it together. Working as a team. None of them had permission to be inside that car. Your (and the law’s) explanation makes it sound as if part of the theft team was then kidnapped. What nonsense is this!?[/quote] Ok, take a deep breath and think rationally. You have someone’s prints in a car that was carjacked. No one can ID any member of the group that was involved in the carjacking. The standard of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt. The reasonable doubt is whether the persons whose prints were in the car left them after the car was already carjacked and abandoned. The kids leave these cars abandoned after they are carjacked and people “jump in” all the time. Or the person whose prints were in it says omg, my buddy Joey picked me up in the car and we went to McDonalds and I didn’t know it was stolen, he had the keys. I get that it is more likely than not that the person whose prints are in the car was involved in the carjacking, but that is not the standard of proof. [/quote] Isn't "jumping in" to a car that doesn't belong to you also a crime? I don't jump into random cars. Do you?[/quote] It’s misdemeanor unlawful entry of a motor vehicle at worst, not carjacking. I’m trying to explain to those that are not familiar with the criminal justice system why fingerprints in a carjacked vehicle doesn’t translate to carjacking charges. [/quote]
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