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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Very common and I’m a teacher[/quote] A teacher at a CES? If so, could you comment on whether the curriculum and rigor of the program has changed after MCPS lowered the admission standard so much for kids from some schools and switched to a lottery?[/quote] DP. It's literacy. The "curriculum" isn't really important. What matters is how the children react to it. A brilliant precocious excited kid can write an amazing essay, and a dull, slow, bored kid can write a bad essay, in response to the same book. It's not like math where you have to change the content to pose harder problems on more topics for advanced kids, while the slower kids need more time to study and review before moving on. [/quote] That can’t be right. Of course the curriculum matters. As in, the books the students read, the pace at which they’re expected to read them, the way they’re taught to analyze the text and the methods taught to write about them. Before they changed the admission standard the kids in these classes were all among the strongest readers in the county with MAP-R scores in the high 90s. Now, kids from high FARMS schools scoring in the 70th percentile are attending. You’re saying that teachers would give a classroom of kids filled with readers who are 2 or 3 grade levels above the average reading level the same novel to read and analyze as the book they’d give a kid who is just on reading level? [/quote] DDP. While I see what you are saying, bringing a highly able student up to speed in reading might be easier than in math. Separately, since MAP scores are exposure-based, a highly able kid from a high FARMS school might simply not have had the exposure, as the teachers needed to address the presumably larger group of more challenged students. That's where the idea of using local norming comes in, but it's fidelity to underlying ability is tenuous. Better to find and use a more directly ability-based evaluation. In any case, we shouldn't assume that those with MAP scores in the 70th %ile under more difficult conditions are less able than those scoring 95+ with high performing cohorts and better family supports. However, failing to address the needs of all those 95+ students (or 90+, or 70+ at high FARMS, or better identified in another manner) robustly is terrible.[/quote]
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