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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]With VT now being in the top 50 in the US news, expect it will get only worse. [/quote] This year’s USNWR rankings are not based on academics and are irrelevant to many posters on DCUM.[/quote] Only because the second tier private schools that they’ve been sending the kids to have finally been revealed for what they are, which is second-tier.[/quote] No USNWR changed the methodology and it's now largely non-academic. Removing class size and high school ranking (if it's done) and portion of professors with terminal degrees IMO is important (HS ranking not as much so---but that's still there with GPA, etc). Class size is very telling of the quality of academics offered at a school. NO way you can convince me that a typical class with 30-40 students is not a much better learning experience than one with 500+ students (given the same quality of professor---obviously a bad prof is bad in all instances). It's simply a very different learning environment and no expert would try to convince you that the 500+ environment is better. Adding in Pell Grant graduation rates really does not demonstrate how one school is better than the other, given that outside factors for those students are often the reason they don't graduate on time, not what the university does or doesn't do. All it means is that State universities jumped in the rankings and private, less than 15K undergrad universities lost placement. That is mostly an indicator of class size and terminal degree. DOn't know about you but I prefer my kids to sit in classes with 25-50 kids where they can actively learn during a lecture and be engaged with a professor who is an expert in their field, not the TA who is a first year graduate student. [/quote] DP. Please tell us which universities in VA (since that's the subject of this thread) have 500+ class sizes? We'll wait.[/quote] We'll also wait for you to read the post this was responding to. This was in response to post that stated: "Only because the second tier private schools that they’ve been sending the kids to have finally been revealed for what they are, which is second-tier." So it was in response to why large public universities jumped in rankings over smaller private schools just this year with all the methodology changes. [/quote] It doesn’t matter what post it is responding to. What matters is that it’s flat wrong. [/quote] +100[/quote]
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