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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’d love to hear from the democrats here. Isn’t Scalise, Jordan and Stefanik worse than McCarthy? What is the play from democrats sitting back? To be clear, I don’t think the democrats had the responsibility of saving McCarthy. I just think other options (people) for doing bi-partisan deals are worse. Scalise, Jordan and Stefanik will try to ram down MAGA policies. Sure they won’t get far in the senate. But the one thing that has to get done is the budget. And I see these three nutcases passing so 30% cut to all non-defense agencies. [/quote]

I agree. I think the House Dems should have tried to make it work longer with McCarthy. The alternatives are way more extreme. [/quote]
 :roll:  We can’t save you from yourselves. [/quote]

The Democrats voted in a block with the hard right to oust a moderate Republican speaker. The fallout from that will be felt by everyone, not just the hard right. [/quote]

McCarthy isn’t a moderate. The fact that he seems to you to be is suggestive of a creeping Overton window.

Politics is about compromise, and electing people who will move your agenda forward. What elements of the Democratic agenda do you think McCarthy should have agreed to move forward in order to secure their votes? [/quote]

No McCarthy is not a moderate.  I agree that he is a die-hard Conservative.  But, McCarthy is one of the few Republicans who are actually willing to negotiate.  Not only negotiate, but he is just as willing to discard promises he makes to his own party members as he is to the opposing party members.  With McCarthy, everyone understands that the current deal on the table is the only deal that he will honor and only until it makes it into print where he will be bound to it.  If it doesn't make it to print, you can pretty much expect him not to honor it.

But the fact remains that you will never get any of the 221 Republicans to vote for a Democrat and so the Republican that will negotiate is about the only choice for the next 15 months.  If you don't, then you'll end up with the government shutting down from Nov 17 to Jan 2 and then the automatic CR at 8% drop for guns and butter spending.  And that will be it until the next election.  We have a dysfunctional Congress and the man who is willing to betray everyone is about the best deal that anyone can actually get passed.

So, despite him pandering to the cameras about not wanting the job and not being willing to negotiate with the Democrats, McCarthy is likely lying about those and I expect some closed-door negotiation that will come to a Ukraine deal and an appropriations deal in exchange for Democrats voting him back into the speakership.[/quote]

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