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Reply to "NY times op ed on the teacher crisis"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I like how the author casually fails to mention of the impacts of progressive education policy in recent years, like instituting restorative Justice programs or less punitive approaches to managing disruptive students (like suspensions or of removing trouble students from classes), and it’s effect on teacher retention. If teachers feel they can’t teach properly because they have no recourse for disruptive students, or are in danger, but are forced to keep violent kids in classes because of these types of idealistic, naive policies, it would be good to read about that. Instead we get a watered down version of the truth. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/13/opinion/teachers-schools-students-parents.html[/quote] If your thesis were true, the red America wouldn't be facing the same crisis, but some of the biggest shortage are in some of the reddest districts of the reddest states [/quote] +1 In addition, many of the policies about keeping students in classes have nothing to do with progressive education but are a factor of special education laws that all schools have to follow.[/quote] IDEA *does not require* that disruptive kids stay in the classroom. [/quote] Yes, but if a disruptive kid has an IEP and parents insist that the mainstream classroom is the LRE, there is a long process to change that and/or threat of lawsuits.[/quote] It took loaaaads of documentation and time just for my kid to get more pull-out academic time on her IEP. She's never been disruptive, we as parents wanted it, her SPED teacher wanted it, reg ed teacher wanted it...but it's considered a "more restrictive placement" so the powers that be hesitated because schools are evaluated on what percent of sped kids receive their services in the reg ed classroom among non-disabled peers (vs. in a sped classroom with sped peers) and can get "dinged" if they move to a more restrictive placement without alll the data or have too many kids in placements deemed more restrictive. I'm not saying it's right, but that's just how it is. [/quote]
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