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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The rape thing is rhetorical but effective.

A person who doesn't support abortion for rape is a monster. Forcing a woman to incubate her rapist's baby is unthinkably cruel.

A person who does support such an abortion is a hypocrite. If abortion is murder, it doesn't matter how God's little unborn angel was conceived. [/quote]

Abortion is killing (that is literally the point), not murder. IMO a fetus doesn’t have personhood, and personhood is required for murder. [/quote]

I agree. But the people who want to limit a woman's reproductive rights have to do it under the rhetoric of abortion being murder. Any nuance on this point, and they are cooked.

And, by and large, opposition to abortion is a political ploy -- not some kind of a foundational truth. For non-Catholics, opposition to abortion is a more recent development than the Happy Meal. Catholics have opposed abortion for a couple hundred years. (Early on, I think they were o.k. with it prior to "the quickening" which is decently well correlated with the first trimester.) Protestants didn't discover that abortion was murder until sometime in the early 70s. [/quote]

First off the early 70s is most or all of our lives for most people on DCUM so not sure what the point is on that.

Second, abortion wasn’t legal prior to that, so there wasn’t really a point to Protestants taking a widespread stance on it other than the general moral view of “don’t do illegal things.”

And third, due to social mores, there were far fewer women having babies out of wedlock for several reasons that resulted in far fewer abortions. A—no birth control pill meant chances of getting pregnant when having sex was far greater…so more people waited to have sex until after they were married because there was a stigma attached to being an unwed mother such that if you got pregnant you got married.
B—people got married much younger bc whi wants to wait that long for sex, and then if you got pregnant the odds of wanting to abort the baby in the first place was nearly non existent.

Just a different time.

But pretty sure Protestants, like Catholics, were never waiving that pro-abortion flag even pre-1970….

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