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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Read this 2019 article from the NYT? Sound familiar?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/30/magazine/almost-all-the-colleges-i-wanted-to-go-to-rejected-me-now-what.html?smtyp=cur&smid=fb-nytimes&fbclid=IwAR33p-Nhl1mO5BSmjk461YIxU1iqqvLZ5moObJWGaE2-iV7bm-csPn0xEFU&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

Kids have been getting rejected from Uber-competitor schools for a very long time. This was pre-COVID, pre-TO.

I realize there is an impulse to look for something to blame if your kid is rejected from their dream school or most of their targets. But it’s important to remember that your kid is the common denominator (especially with multiple rejections). There is obviously something deficient in the application for the kinds of schools targeted — maybe the essay is bad, maybe you didn’t take enough foreign language, maybe the ECs are spread too thin and don’t demonstrate passion and commitment over time?

What impressed me about the letter writer in the article was he seems to recognizes that instead of casting blame on others. At least there’s some acknowledgment he’s dealing with a bruised ego. That said, his attitude about the schools he did get into leaves a lot to be desired.

I feel bad for kids who faced a lot of rejection this year. But telling them it’s because test optional let lesser kids sneak in and steal their birthright admission isn’t helping them deal with reality. Learn to make the best of the opportunities you ARE given.[/quote]

Well, these sermons about learning to deal with the harsh realities of college admissions is of little help to students who spent years of high school chasing an unattainable goal. Not because they didn't study enough or didn't give their best to their community, their extracurriculars and their internships but because they are from unwanted financial class, race, geography or whatever.

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That is your fault as a parent if you made them think T25 is an "attainable goal" for anyone.  They have always been a reach for everyone, save a well hooked student (think parent is a celebrity or presidents or bill gates, etc).  
A well raised kid will grow up knowing you work hard in school to learn, do well and aim high, but also know their life is not over if they only get into school ranked #32.

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Amen! So many entitled people on this thread. [/quote]

This is the dumbest s**t, I have ever heard. You wouldn't dare say this to an URM or woman trying to get a coveted spot anywhere and coming up short and then venting. Everybody has the right to expect that if they work hard and play by the rules, they will get their reward in a country that is fair. Instead the universities play by twisted rules that are never made transparent and jerk people along. People are not entitled for expecting fair treatment, the Universities are evil for not being transparent about their admission policies.

Why don't HYPMS, make all their committee decisions and scores public after redacting personally identifying information. Why don't they release application and admit rates by race, score, GPA, legacy status etc every year so that people can clearly see what their real chances are.

Don't you dare call people entitled. If admissions were fair, everybody would know their chances very well as the would be enough data to make a very good guess. Instead these universities exploit applicants. They are the evil side here. Blame them [/quote]

Because revealing that would not let people know what their real chances are. And there is already enough data to know if you don’t have a shot. So the only event that could happen from revealing more information is fewer applicants, which is the opposite of what they want to build their class from.[/quote]

Everyone knows that any school with a less than 20% acceptance rate (and certainly those with single digits) is a REACH.  You know that you have the chance to buy the lottery ticket and the chance of winning is small, so most do NOT have a shot. It's not a surprise.   [/quote]

People need to stop with this preachy BS.  Do you think parents that have raised smart kids don't know the chances?  What they are pissed off about is that [b]someone  dumber got into a school when their kid didn't[/b] (yes, if your kid's stats are lower than mine, he's dumber than mine).

I understand the concept of generational advantage in education and wealth.  A lot of rich/urm folks on here (almost all White) fall into that category.  Parents paid for their education at an Ivy/top school which they got in because their parents went there. Having increased their offspring's admission chances through this legacy/donation(bribe) mechanism, they come on here and bleat about social justice, etc.

What about the Asians?  The vast majority of the parents are immigrants who are nowhere near wealthy but make just enough to not be considered poor.  Most also have an education (because they wouldn't have been allowed into the country without one).  Their kids are clubbed with the kids of the aforementioned group just because they are not poor or not a preferred minority? How's that fair?   Not wanting an institution to be 'filled with Asians' is just your racism shining through and nothing else.  Don't hide that behind your fake concern about URMs and the poor.  if you really cared, you'd advocate for more money for primary education and adult education that helps keep families together, prevent teen pregnancies, etc.  vs. this nonsense.[/quote]

Wow, you really are an a-hole, even by the standards of DCUM.

And BTW, my ivy kid was NMS scholarship winner, 36 1 try, 1st in class at highly ranked HS, with published research, so no, he is not dumber than your kid.

But you are still a rude person who no one would want to be around, and if you spoke to your kids guidance counselor the way you post here I would not be surprised if he passed that along in his recommendation.  So maybe YOU kept your kid out.[/quote]

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