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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s…kinda gross IMO[/quote]

Agreed. The problem with this discussion is that both sides have valid points and neither will even contemplate that the other is partially right.

For the VT boosters - obviously VT is practicing yield protection by waitlisting these supposed 4.5/1570 in-state students.  I believe it as I have heard from several TJ families that their high stats kids were waitlisted.  You are kidding yourself if you think this is based on a "holistic" evaluation and that these kids (who are reportedly also applying to Harvard and Princeton) are study robots and have deficient applications and just forgot to do community service and that service is a uniquely VT thing to consider.  These types of kids are well aware that Princeton and Harvard also value service and have planned accordingly.  VT is waitlisting them because they think these types of kids will have better offers and won't come.  The irony is that most of these kids won't get into Princeton or Harvard based on the 4-5% admission rates there, and VT would be a better school if some of these higher stats kids ended up at VT.  They might even pick VT over UVA or other top-30 schools because of stronger engineering or price.

For the disgruntled reject/waitlist people - you may not like what is happening but it has been going on for years and is well known.  If you really want VT and you have high stats, you need to apply ED.  If you are treating it like a safety and get waitlisted or rejected, that's on you.  With applications going up year after year and more and more applicants using ED, it is not likely to change.  You will likely have other options but VT may not be one of them.  Also note that VT has struggled with predicting yield and has let in close to 3,000 off the waitlist the last two years, so they are waitlisting tons of kids and then will figure it out later once they have a better sense of how many people will attend.[/quote]

Well stated.  The worst cases are those where applicant really needs to go in state for financial reasons but doesn’t know this ED game.  Applicant thinks they can apply to UVA, VT and some other in state schools, get fair consideration, and then decide.  But if they are too qualified VT rejects them.

For us at least we go in with our eyes open and can afford OOS   Unless DC is truly 100% VT all the way I will encourage applying to multiple schools in and out of state.  This ED or Else Policy is a huge turn off.[/quote]

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