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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s the ‘20s. Men are absolutely looking for high wage earning women.  Women have been seeking out men who earn more for century, it should be no surprise that ultimately men we’re going to do the same.

Welcome to the mid but we’re in the mid 20s, ladies!

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The big question is whether or not men are now going to do half the childcare, cooking, and housework. Based on my observations it seems like marriage has less and less to offer women, but we shall see. [/quote]

That is the problem. Men now want it all. They want a high earner for a wife AND they still expect the wife to do all of this other work. This is why I am divorced. I do not think marriage offers any benefit. It offered me zero.[/quote]

+1 back to those physician moms. Not only are they working less than their physician spouses to care for the children, they are harried off their feet trying to be super mom volunteering in school while working their jobs. i see surgeon mom in school but never surgeon dad. ER mom cuts down to three days a week at her job while ER dad takes on two jobs and travel. so now they are all burdened with work school and childcare. i rather be mansion mom who lunches and plays tennis, life seems easier. [/quote]

+1 I tell my daughters not to go into medicine. The education costs are astronomical, the average salaries aren't high these days, there's little WFH flexibility, and you're going a million miles per hour during your shift. The two female doctors who I know really well have it rough. Both of them had to drop down to part time just to keep their families afloat. Now they don't earn much. One of them has a husband who does help with the kids, but he's not a high earner. He has family money though so they're doing fine. The other has a physician spouse who concentrates on his career. The wife is a great mother but she handles the house and kid stuff and she's just going, going, going all day every day.

Kind of a sidebar, but I also warn my girls not to go into low-paying fields. The whole spend hundreds of thousands of dollars and 11+ years of education to earn less than they could with an easy WFH job is for the trust fund set. Same with many nonprofit jobs. Those are for the trust fund kids or people with wealthy spouses. Prestigious with low pay isn't for most of us.[/quote]

Actually don’t be too down on medicine for your daughters. I have noticed that in other high flying lucrative professions such as law or banking or consulting many women quit after children, especially if they have high income husbands. The doctors return however. I have thought about it and I think it’s because medicine can be quite flexible depending on the specialty. Like I see the female doctors working less days. The paying your dues and insane hours happen more in your youth, but once you become an attending it’s easier to control hours. Also asides from continuing education it seems easier for doctors to return to the work force after taking time off vs other professions where you become obsolete if you don’t keep one foot in. The girl just has to be smart about the speciality, there is a reason why most dermatologists are women. [/quote]

Exactly! Specialty is what matters most in medicine. My brother is a dermatologist and has a great quality of life. [/quote]

One doesn’t just say “I want derm” and it happens.

It is one of the hardest specialities to match to.

No guaruntee that you land derm during med school for res matching….and then what?

If derm is what makes or breaks your desire To be a doc, it’s not something you should bank on [/quote]

Family practice and pediatrics is pretty flexible too. All the prestigious careers are difficult. But so far medicine seems easier for women to return to than the others. [/quote]I don't know where you're getting your information. The burnout is real in primary care. With all of the notes, messages, and paperwork even if you're technically PT you're still clocking FT hours. I don't want to detail the thread, but want to paint a realistic picture of modern medicine.[/quote]

Every job sucks. Investment banking sucks. Consulting sucks. Big Law sucks. I am sure medicine sucks too. But the thing is what sucks the least and still allow for women to return and still have a decent paycheck. You can burn out in primary care, step out for a few years and come back more easily. Yes maybe I am a little too idealistic about medicine. I see a lot of other burnt out professions women that never step back, but somehow the doctors return. Is there another explanation for this? I am all ears. [/quote]It does. I'm just saying don't glamorize medicine. The statistics for women working full-time after residency are abysmal. Yes, you can find a peds job 2 days a week, but how much do you think that pays? 80K. In that case, marry the woman because you love her not for being a cash cow. The majority will not be working FT.[/quote]

80k for two days a week is mad good money. [/quote]

This is just not true. Most do work FT. And the better the medical school the more likely this is.[/quote]

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