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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Asians are hugely underrepresented based on test scores and GPA - there would be twice as many at the top schools if they just went on grades and test scores. [/quote] But they don't just go on just grades and test scores, and never have. [b] [You're missing the point. The "something else" factor that's not just grades and test scores is excluding roughly half the Asians who would otherwise get in. Are you really prepared to argue that half the Asian applicants lack leadership qualities, fine extracurriculars, and athletic talent? That sounds racist to me tbh.][/b] [quote]Anyone sane has to conclude that this indicates that something else is going on besides "they're not just looking at grades and test scores". The simplest explanation is racism.[/quote] No, that is not true that it is the simplest explanation. The simplest explanation is the one they give, which is easily understood and verified. That they are seeking representative balance within races so they can build the class they want.[b] [I already demonstrated that they are not seeking representative racial balance. Representative racial balance would mean that the races were represented in approximate proportion to their academic capabilities, but they don't and it's not even close. They're not just taking "slightly fewer" Asians to achieve racial balance, they are taking vastly fewer. This is easily understood and verified.][/b] [quote]"Universities should be able to choose who they want in the way they want." -- well sorry, it has been the law of the land for a long time that universities (like any other business) are not allowed to discriminate on the basis of race or gender. [/quote] And they don't, because seeking racial balance ensures all races are represented equally. If Asians suddenly didn't apply to Harvard one year their acceptance rate would shoot WAY UP, regardless of the fact that they are Asian. This is why it is not racist. [b] [They very clearly do discriminate against Asians and whites, and in favor of blacks and Hispanics. Simple math. Self-evidently racist.][/b] [quote]I don't believe for a minute you think that it would be acceptable for a university to only admit white males because "they should be able to choose who they want in the way they want". Why is discrimination against Asians acceptable to you[/quote] It isn't acceptable to me. This just isn't it. [b][There are none so blind as those who will not see.] [/b] [/quote][/quote]
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