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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Asians are hugely underrepresented based on test scores and GPA - there would be twice as many at the top schools if they just went on grades and test scores. [/quote]

But they don't just go on just grades and test scores, and never have.

[quote]Anyone sane has to conclude that this indicates that something else is going on besides "they're not just looking at grades and test scores". The simplest explanation is racism.[/quote]

No, that is not true that it is the simplest explanation. The simplest explanation is the one they give, which is easily understood and verified.  That they are seeking representative balance within races so they can build the class they want.

[quote]"Universities should be able to choose who they want in the way they want." -- well sorry, it has been the law of the land for a long time that universities (like any other business) are not allowed to discriminate on the basis of race or gender. [/quote]

And they don't, because seeking racial balance ensures all races are represented equally.  If Asians suddenly didn't apply to Harvard one year their acceptance rate would shoot WAY UP, regardless of the fact that they are Asian.  This is why it is not racist.

[quote]I don't believe for a minute you think that it would be acceptable for a university to only admit white males because "they should be able to choose who they want in the way they want". Why is discrimination against Asians acceptable to you[/quote]

It isn't acceptable to me.  This just isn't it.[/quote]

I am glad that you are not one of the posters that assumes that Asians are somehow deficient some unmeasurable way that justifies their exclusion. Instead, your support for AA rests in a similar place to the current law: "seeking racial balance ensures all races are represented equally."

Given this, how do you address the fact that, for any reasonable definition of college readiness, there is gross inequality? Should colleges lower the bar, and if so how far?[/quote]

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