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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Look -- college is not a government program where the "most deserving" whatever that means gets the slot. Getting federal money to do things for the common good does not change that. Colleges get to pick what they want. I get legacy. It grounds the college and helps give it a history that can be shared. But the college gets to decide what it wants. Hey we need more music majors let's lower the scores for them or any other majors. And this is the exact time that URMs admitted in an earlier time in great numbers have the legacy option. Seems a bit harsh to pull from them. [/quote] It will never be a "fair system". There is no way for that to happen. Just like life isn't fair. The fact that some people can afford tutoring and extras to help their kids isn't fair either. The fact that I can afford private schools (don't do that but I could) and can also afford to live in a top public district isn't fair. State schools should not use legacy, but private schools should get to pick what they want. Just like you stated, they do that when they don't admit 90% of their class as engineering, unless it's solely an engineering school. They do that with athletics, and many other admits. Most of these on DCUM complaining that it isn't fair don't really appreciate all of the advantages they already have over most of the kids in the USA/world. [/quote] I think legacy should be abolished and it’s not because of fairness. I don’t think fairness is a reasonable objection to legacy. It’s because legacy are the only group that get admissions advantages [b]without accompanying accomplishments or benefits to the school.[/b] I honestly don’t understand how parents can even put their kids through admission as a legacy — it’s like flat-out telling them they are mediocre — but my real objection is that legacy admissions bring a lot of extremely entitled kids to campuses and I think it harms the environment of schools. [/quote] Oh, child. How much are you willing to pony up? Most of you can't even make the tuition without loans and/or whining and begging for money, forget about donating decent amounts. No, we make the environment of the school. We've been attending for generations. "Princeton's Annual Giving campaign raises $68.6 million" "Fiscal Year 2021 was the most successful fundraising year in Brown's history, with a whopping $430.5 million raised." "Harvard topped the donation league in 2018, bringing in a mammoth $1.4 billion." [/quote] Yes---those "legacy" admits and their families help fund everyone else. [/quote] Not only the tuition for the low and middle class kids. DC1's program received millions for the bipolar seed grant program from a very generous family. [/quote]
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