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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]any discussion of greek life always devolves into this type of argument on this board. the fact is that if you talk to the girls in sororities they are generally happy with the experience, and they are also welcome to drop out at any time if they are not. Its a social club, [b]why do we have to assign any more meaning to it than that? [/b]If the girls find their "home" great, if its not for them,, great. Why grown women (and possibly men) on this board care one way or the other, I simply don't understand.[/quote]

For one thing, it's school sanctioned [/quote]

And rush is organized by the school. They could choose to be more humane. [/quote]

How many more years will it take for someone to hit a public school with an ADA or 1984 complaint based on rush? [/quote]

Overdue. But when a school gets a reputation of having an especially brutal rush and moms start steering their daughters to the other major state U because of it (true story), a sorority will give a bid  to someone with obvious differences (Down’s) for a PR stunt to show how “inclusive” are.  [/quote]

Stories like this are based on a very limited number of schools.

Generally speaking though sororities run the gamut from groups with all one type of young women to groups with all types.  Sororities vary from school to school and the most snobby sorority at one school might be the most laid back at another school.

One problem that happens in rush is most freshman will go through the process and pick the group that matches their "fantasy self" - the young woman they imagine they might be sometime in the future - instead of picking the sorority that matches their real self.  So the girl who wants to be outgoing and bubbly and popular but is really a bit more shy and reserved tries really hard to get into the outgoing bubbly popular all the time sorority and is crushed when she doesn't get accepted. She passes up the group of young women who are a bit more reserved but are just as fun and kind as the other sorority and have just as many activities going on but don't appear to be the most popular.

Another problem that happens is most freshman fail to understand that during rush the sisters are like sales people. They are really good at selling the sorority experience. They make everyone feel like they love them and want them in their group. That's so the rushee feels like she wants to be in that group.  It can be hard to look past that and decide which group has the best sales people vs. which group has the best people for her. [/quote]

Having been in a sorority and served as Rush Director, happy to report your speculation is off the mark.  Most girls gravitate towards the sorority where they feel “most at home,” not the most aspirational.[/quote]

I think the PP has a point, somewhat of a "know thyself" situation. My DD was dead set on one particular sorority, where she had a good friend from childhood (they had drifted over recent years). It was very much a party sorority, known for being very social and high emphasis on partying. My DD was cut the first night, even with the friend to vouch for her. At the end of the day, while my DD is very social and goes out just often as most kids, she barely drinks so in the end, that house would have been a terrible fit for her. She even sees that now seeing the people that did get a bid there, that it is for the best. She is a perfect fit for the house she's in that she had literally never heard of prior to rush.   [/quote]

Does she realize that her friend didn't actually vouch for her? My house would never think of cutting someone first day who was being vouched for. We may have pressed the friend to make sure, but if the friend stuck with it, that would be enough. [/quote]

Actually it did happen the way i'm saying and DDs friend has actually since dropped the sorority in part as a result of what she saw during rush. Recommendations depended on whether or not the person recommending the rushee had enough clout and apparently my DD's friend did not.   Her friend didn't even know she got cut.[/quote]

So it really is who you know not who you are?

That’s nice. [/quote]

It is which is why girls who have been groomed by their mothers for 5 years for this know that although “dirty rush” is not allowed, that’s how it works. Get yourself in front of the girls in the houses you think you want before rush. [b]Junior and senior year of high school includes getting seen and meeting the people who will make decisions when you’re rushing[/b].  [/quote]

Lolololol I went to a high school were like less than half the class goes away to college. And they certainly can’t join Greek Life. I would have had no way of meeting any of those people.

Sheltered DCUM strikes again. [/quote]

the PP is talking about very high tier very souther sororities. This type of connection is not necessary to join greek life. I had no connection at my northern school and got in and my DD while she had a few connections and was a legacy, ended up at an entirely different house than she expected, and she knew no one there.[/quote]

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