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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] You can’t seem to grasp that “nothing is unclean” means exactly that, and goes way beyond bread. [/quote] Read the passage. Jesus is only talking about his disciples eating bread with unwashed hands. The Talmud commands that Jews wash their hands before eating anything or the food will defile them. Orthodox Jews still do this. Here, Jesus is siding with the Sadducees, who reject the Oral Law, against the Pharisees, who codified the Oral Law in the Talmud. Had Jesus meant that Jews should go and eat bacon and pork chops that would have been monumental and he would not have just used bread as his example. If he had meant bacon and pork chops, he would have himself eaten bacon and pork chops, which he never did. https://web.mit.edu/jywang/www/cef/Bible/NIV/NIV_Bible/MARK+7.html[/quote] To back up your interpretation, you, a former Jew, rely entirely on two southern preachers with a few hundred people in their congregations, and their own websites. Using MIT to quote Mark is another interesting choice. You probably think an MIT link helps your argument. But of course MIT doesn’t actually gloss Mark, they just reproduce the passage. You still have the same fundamental problem: “Nothing” still means “nothing” and “whatever” still means “whatever.” If Jesus cared about dietary laws, he wouldn’t have told his followers to drink his metaphorical blood, which is about the most unkosher thing you can think of. You’re going in circles. I’m not going to retype it all again for you. Instead I’ll just cut and paste the obvious response. Ensley’s translation of Mark 7 completely misses the point, buries the lede, and ignores the elephant in the room. Ensley spills a lot of digital ink arguing that recent bible translations fail to append the end of a clause referring to going to the bathroom, therefore whatever impurifications go into the body will also go out. I mean, maybe, but so what? While the initial incident started with bread, Jesus broadens this twice, with the words “whatever” and “nothing.” Don’t you think that if Jesus meant something narrow like nocturnal emissions (thanks for your interest in all these bodily functions) or contact in the marketplace or unclean hands or ritual impurities he would have said that? Even if you follow Ensley’s argument about how “whatever” gets purified in the (rear) end, dont you think Jesus, a great debater, would have clarified the very broad “nothing is impure” and “whatever you eat” with something like “except lobster and milk with meat” if that’s what he, a skilled rhetorician, actually meant? 14) And he called the people to him again and said to them, ‘Hear me, all of you, and understand. (15) There is [b]nothing[/b] outside a person that by going into him can defile him, but the things that come out of a person are what defile him.’ (17) And when he had entered the house and left the people, his disciples asked him about the parable. (18) And he said to them, ‘Are you also without understanding? Do you not see that [b]whatever[/b] goes into a person from outside cannot defile him? (19) Because it enters not into his heart but his stomach, and is expelled? (Thus, he declares all foods clean.) (20) And he said, ‘What comes out of a person is what defiles him. (21) For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, (22) coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, and foolishness. (23) All of these evil things come from within a person, and they defile a person.’” (Mark 7:1-23) [/quote] Nothing you are saying applies to non kosher foods. It had to do with washing hands before eating bread. Jesus kept kosher. https://aleteia.org/2021/07/09/did-jesus-keep-kosher/[/quote] Jesus’ own words say otherwise. Read them again. Anyway, Jesus told his followers to drink his metaphorical blood, communion wine—about the least kosher thing you can think of. [/quote]
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