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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To the troll talking about Yale's psychology dept: It's literally #1 in the nation, you dipshit.[/quote] And the average starting salary for the #1 according to the data from the department of education = $38,000 https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?130794-Yale-University&fos_code=4201&fos_credential=3 [/quote] You are a hopeless. Read your damn citation, [b]"The median annual earnings of students [u]two years after graduation[/u]. [u]Only data from students who received federal financial aid are included in the calculation[/u]."[/b] One of the gals we personally know who recently graduated from Yale with a psyc BA has grandparents worth billions of dollars -- obvious rich heirs like her are not included in that calculation. The financial aid kids contributing to that low median salary are almost certainly 24 and 25-year-old master's/PhD students making $20,000 to 30,000 -- and probably a handful of kids in law school. Please stop embarrassing yourself. You're acting as if a psyc BA from Yale is akin to some dipshit drunken sorority girl at Tailgate State degree mill with a BA in psyc.[/quote] Thank you for strengthening my point. Federal Financial aid = Grants + Loans(Stafford loan, Plus Loan), etc. A source says 20% of Yale students receive Federal Pell Grant.(this is jut the grant not including federal loans) https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/yale-university/paying-for-college/financial-aid/ Yale says 64% receive financial aid. Normally any student receives any kind of financial aid at least accepts interest free Stafford Loan which is federal aid. So the data accounts for the majority(more than) of the students and these students are the hard working low to middle class families. This is actually better data because it removes the rich kids, legacy kids who are already set up to work for their parents' companies or parents' friends' companies which would bump up the salary number. College degree would an accessory for these kids. So for the normal low to middle class kids in Yale psychology, they expect to start making $38,000 after graduation. Now they realize that it's shitty after graduating from such an elite college with a cool major. So they go to a graduate school in the related field accumulating more debt, but it won't do much. You would need a PhD and become a clinical psychologist to make something in the field. Clinical psychologist is one of the best outcomes with a psychology degree. However the average salary for clinical psychologies = $78,000 in VA.(This includes Master's but good luck finding a job with Master's) It's better with a PhD but still 80,000 -900,00 after years and years of schooling with a dept to pay. This is not a starting salary. This is the average salary of all the folks in the profession. Nothing's wrong with being a clinical psychologist. It's a great profession that helps people, and many people would enjoy studying and working in the field. However it's just ath these are very important pieces of data and information we would need when choosing the field of study and colleges especially for the hardworking low to middle class families. I believe that's one of the most important purposes of this forum and this thread. By the way, bringing in a few random cases that only you know or I know doesn't mean anything and is unintelligent. [/quote]
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