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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]These people all come off horribly. [/quote]

Yes.  I went to college with a lot of people who became successful literary writers and was feeling bad earlier this week because, thus far, I haven't received any Pulitzer prize nods or MacArthur grants or whatever like my classmates have.

But at least I'm not Sonya Larson!  Middling success, poor writing AND famous for being petty.  That's quite a trio.  So thanks, Sonya.  The schadenfreude I feel towards you is a gift that keeps on giving with each new and more embarrassing detail.[/quote]

Sister. I also went to college with some people who got MacArthurs and went to high school with a bunch of Emmy winners - and I too have had my very down "where's MY prize?" moments (I know; you don't have to tell me how unsympathetic that is). My book advances have never topped $7500.

And I too have felt a bit of schadenfreude this week seeing what absolute turds these crazy powerful, well paid writers are. And seeing it all happen in public.[/quote]

DP. How on Earth did a Chip Cheek or Allison Whocares get advances of $800,000 and $1,000,000, respectively, for works that did not sell?

There’s another element here, where being a big deal in the tiny, tiny pond of Grub Street, and being drinking/shit-talking buddies with the Clunky Monkeys greased a smoother path to better/more aggressive agents, better meets/hookups within publishing, better chances at fellowships and on and on. Which makes the refusal of Grub Street and its bigger-named monsters and the Writer Twitter defenses much more morally suspect. It was all personal and all professional at the same time, and they are all shocked that the person they wanted to kick around refused to accept it.

Someone else mentioned how deficient all of these deep, serious artists must be at character study. A person who engages in altruistic donation is not like most of us. Tack on her divinity studies and decision to try and write at least 10 years after others tend to start; this isn’t to canonize her, but doesn’t it suggest a certain unwavering drive? THIS is the person you want to F with? The person who doesn’t get social cues, doesn’t get embarrassed as you since she doesn’t have the right wiring? The character of Dawn is wholly consistent from the first line of the NYT story to the obnoxious letters she wrote to get Sonya fired (lol, ain’t saying it was not largely deserved - no you cannot publish lifted material and shrug it off). She has nothing to be embarrassed about. She is who she is. But those weak, sniveling, not so successful in-groupers are continuing to flail because they are fundamentally EMBARRASSED. Because they have at least two faces apiece, and their talents aren’t that significant. [/quote]

Oh yeah. I can see “Dawn” as a character with a lot of nuance and interest - even tragedy. Reducing her to “white savior” really belies a massive lack of imagination. Like Dorothea in Middlemarch. [/quote]

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