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Prepping for a test is in no way ‘gaming the system’.

Prepping for a CoGar test is as much ‘gaming the system’ as shooting 50 free throws is or practicing soccer drills.

Both are practice.  And practice helps your improve your skills.  In test-taking or in sports.  Why is one acceptable to you and not the other?  Or is it just dependent on the race of the kid doing the practicing.  [/quote]

You're making a good case for MCPS dropping the CogAT test permanently.[/quote]
DP.. let's say they drop cogat.  What measure should they use?

[b]I'd be ok with MAP scores.[/b]  But, do you think that if the only looked at MAP scores that the demographics of the high scorers would look that differently?[/quote]

Why? Kids that did math prep would score high. Kids who didn't get advanced math instruction would score low. Do you think that's a good way to identify high-ability students who aren't getting their needs met at their home schools? I don't.[/quote]

So how would you propose we identify high ability? [/quote]

Still thinking? [/quote]

Here's the thing.  There is no way to identify high ability through testing that isn't impacted by practicing for the test.  So either we all agree not to practice or we all agree not to use tests.  Or...the school systems uses "multiple measures" and a lottery to reduce the distortions caused by practice effects which in turn result from differences in family resources.  But you want to know the test so your DC can benefit from differences in family resources.  That's fine too.[/quote]
"multiple measures" aka the black box of magnet admissions.[/quote]
The MCPS Way!  :D

If they tell everything, people will try to game it.[/quote]

Except in previous years those measures were expressly listed on their website.[/quote]

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