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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Read the post again. Yale and Princeton are "quite a bit further down" from Stanford/MIT for [b]tech[/b] specifically.

That is definitely true. The holy grail in tech is Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon and Berkeley, and these universities are considered quite a bit better than the next tier of universities for tech.[/quote]

But I was responding to your post answering my question!  If those stats are not relevant to tech (and I agree they are not relevant to tech, or anything else WRT prestige) then don't post them in reply.

You just discounted your entire yield-statistical response.[/quote]

How many kids voluntarily submit to parchment and is the data verified?  I would need accurate and robust data to make such strong statements.[/quote]

I think most Parchment data comes from participating high schools.[/quote]

High schools do not always know where kids are admitted unless the students tells their guidance counselor.  They only know where you are going when you ask for the transcript to be sent.  [/quote]

The high school knows all colleges a student applied to because the school is asked to send counselor's recommendation letter to all of them. 
I think students are also encouraged to provide feedback on which colleges they got in for the Naviance database to benefit later students.
So high schools have the data if they are willing to provide the metadata to parchment (not sure about this)
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I wish you had common sense.  The high school knows where people applied but not where they got in fool.  By the way that is exactly what I said.  Many kids may not be "encouraged" (notice that does not mean required) to give over info on their acceptances.  In addition, they may lie about their acceptance to save face.  (I got in but we did.  not have the money-- how many people get into Harvard or whatever school that don't have the money each year????).  I specifically told my URM kids NOT to give any info and know a lot of other parents of every socio-economic rage that do not participate.  As I said schools know where  kids apply, if you ask for help with a waitlist they know that too and finally they know where they send transcripts.  Beyond that it is highly suspect.[/quote]

You may feel insecure to turn down the survey, most students are honest enough and willing to help future students. It may surprise your tiny heart that Naviance is quite accurate and is the best of all the available data concerning college acceptance distribution. If parchment does get a hold of some of the data as someone suggested, their comparison charts then are highly useful.

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ok white people.  In a school that has few URMs, or anything else that is atypical responding is self-identifying.  (Every kid knows who went to Standford for a good 5 years. Then you know the metrics and can figure out every other school the kid applied too. That is very personal.  if you are applying to state school maybe you are not personally identifying but for top schools you are) Why would you out your kid.  Naviance is not a useful tool for any kids that is not average for the school they attend.  If they are an athlete, URM, musician, poet...its not predictive anyway. Why should I feel insecure all my kids went top 10? and had multiple offers?  I just don't feel I have to submit personal identifying data. When I went top10 we did not have Naviance and guess what we still went to college.  [/quote]

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