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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People who think teachers have “great benefits” don’t really want to listen otherwise.   The benefits and pension are constantly getting chopped and nickel and dimed every year just like the private sector has gone through.     Things are very different now even compared to just 10 years ago. The Great Recession forced the state and local school systems to cut back on benefits and pension by at least 20%.  Now salaries and benefits and copays are getting getting a tiny bit worse every year or not keeping up with inflation.

Schools systems are notorious for giving a cost of living increase but then raising premiums by an almost equal amount and then calling it a pay increase.[/quote]

I mean if you just make sh$t up you can argue anything you want.

Health care costs are going up for everyone. Your cost of living increase is more than your premium increase, that is just a bald-faced lie. MCPS cannot control the fact that it costs more to provide the same health benefits.

You'll have to elaborate on the cuts to pensions. That will be news the BOE and the County Council lol.

There is just too much dishonesty here. SMH.

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Ok. Even though it off topic for this thread, I’ll bite.  Teachers in Maryland hired after 2011 or working since 2011 are the in the “ reformed pension program”.  Pensions were cut 20% for future retirees.   Since the 1970’s Maryland has cut (reformed) pensions every 10 to 15 years. They always end making younger employees pay more and get less in return.  Currently 70% of the money I pay into the pension system each pay period goes to pay current retirees.  Pension systems don’t work like 401ks where you get to keep your own money directly.     Pay and salary cuts always seem directed at the new and younger teachers, while older or retired teachers still get most of their promised benefits.  Additionally the state has forced the counties to contribute more to the pension funds directly in addition to matching what is takenit out of staff salaries.

So,  if you want to be fair direct your snark at older or retired teachers.   But please pity the newer, younger teachers who won’t get as much of these benefits and will subsidize the older and retired staff.

Overall, I agree that benefits are still better than the private sector.  But again, it is not fair to blame teachers for the govt and CEOs not wanting to pay or fix the American health care system.   On the flip side I make less money including salaryand benefits than any of my friends with similar education experience.[/quote]

Nobody is blaming teachers for the health care system issues. You are trying to argue that the taxpayers of Montgomery County should make up the difference for you, in addition to paying for their own increases in health care costs. That is really the epitomy of entitlement. JFC.

Pensions everywhere have been cut because they aren't sustainable. The government has to pay a lot into them in order to ensure they can pay out benefits, and they often neglect to do this because politicians don't get any credit for funding retirement benefits they've already promised. Most groups, including all non-public safety county government employees back in 1994, lost their pensions entirely. You mention a 2011 cut to pensions, but neglect the 2008 increase in pension benefits through the county supplement.

I get why MCEA wants their members to complain about their benefits. It's a complex issue and it's difficult for regular citizens to cut through the incessant dishonest talking MCEA talking points. You can't really pretend you aren't getting raises but most people won't fact check when someone comes on here and claims their benefits are getting cut. [/quote]

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