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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most crimes show indifference to the victims humanity and subjectivity. PP are you saying they’re all unconscious hate crimes? And if you believe it’s unconscious does it meet the legal standard of a hate crime?

Some posters here think of you believe and intellectually justify assumptions, even logical suppositions, enough they will become facts. Maybe so the narrative fits a larger agenda.  I don’t understand why the agenda is so important but it won’t be deterred by logic apparently.

Others need evidence to accept something as fact. We won’t agree. Maybe it’s just different ways of thinking about things but a court of law requires a fairly strict standard of truth. [/quote]

I don't think we are talking about a court of law.  That's a different matter cuz it has its own legal standard.  If the court doesn't certify this as a hate crime, it only means the evidence is insufficient to clear the high bar.  That's not the same thing as saying it's not a hate crime.[/quote]

But this conversation is related to how it’s charged. And certainly how the public talks about it. Some posters want to shoehorn this case into historical racism when this case fits no precedent. It’s not even clear who the shooter’s targets were. Seems to me it was the businesses themselves given that customers were also victims. Not enough is known but it sounds like investigators have tried to look for a racial angle and not come up with anything (made public) yet. [/quote]

People come in and out of these threads, so I am not sure of the flow of the thread.

In truly random shootings, as it was in Beltway sniper attacks in 2002, (shooting spree in the Washington, D.C., area that killed 10 people and injured 3 over a three-week period), all people lived in fear not knowing if they'll be the next target.  Random shooting is frightening in a different way bc anyone can be next in line.  It didn't matter if you were white, black, or Asian.  It was random.

I lived through that and saw the general fear of random killing that gripped the entire city.  This one is confined to the Asian communities.  Non-Asians know they are not the target, so they can nonchalantly debate academic points, hairsplitting whether this is racial or mental.  For Asians, they have targets on their backs.  They'd have to be stupid to believe otherwise cuz their life may depend on their judgment. [/quote]

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