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Hey cray cray. Go back and salt other threads with your drivers VS bicyclists arguments. Good for you. This thread is about pedestrians and bicyclists being able to use streets to socially distance and then bicyclists and joggers apparently believing this means they can disregard pedestrians. Keep your DCUM topics and rants distinct  :) [/quote]

No. You go find a different hobby than hating on people who ride bikes. This is not a drivers vs bicyclists argument, this is a people shouldn't kill people argument. When you're out walking in the street because there's not enough room on the sidewalk, it's not people on bikes who are the danger, and it's not people out jogging who are the danger. It's people driving machines that go fast and weigh 2 tons or more.[/quote]

Hmmm...[b]The cars are not nearly running me over. [/b]They have their windows closed for the most part. It is the cyclists who keep nearly running me over, whether I am on the sidewalk or in the street and they are rarely wearing masks. So yes it is the cyclists and joggers concerning me. Thank you. I have to say, most drivers have been pretty understanding and wave an acknowledgment unlike the cyclists who stare with a death stare that intones that they would like to run me over.

Funny thing is, I am not anti cyclist. I just think it is funny how now that the pedestrians need some more room, cyclists seem to be showing their true colors.  [/quote]

That's terrific. I'm glad. The drivers are running other people over, though. Over 6,000 pedestrians are killed over year - by drivers. If you, as a pedestrian, are more worried about people riding bikes than people driving cars, I really don't know what to say. Other than that you're the exception. "I would walk there, but I'm too worried that a person on a bike will hit me" is something I have never, ever, ever, heard anybody say.[/quote]

Can you not separate what is happening now from a general attitude of bicycle safety. Dude. I think everybody here agrees with you. We are simply drawing a distinction from 'normal' and now. Now we would like cyclists to look out as much for us as they would like cars to look out for them every day of the year. That is all. This is not some sort of mutually exclusive affair. We can have both cyclist safety and pedestrian safety. Can't we?[/quote]

Don't tell me that. Tell the PP at 7:55. The one who posted, "Yes. The biker who thought he could ride down the middle of western ave a few days ago at 25 miles an hour and owns the road just like the cars he’s sharing it with. EXCEPT he thinks he can use the road just like a car until there’s a stop sign. He went flying through every stop sign. Deserves to get in an accident. If he thinks he’s a car and wants to use the car lane he needs to behave like a car."

Incidentally, the speed limit on Western Ave is 25 mph. What percentage of drivers go 25 mph or less on Western Ave?[/quote]

I agree with you. And incidentally I don't believe that anybody DESERVES to get in an accident. I think that people just think in very 'short' term windows. The bicyclist never believes that his running a red light on a major intersection will put him in danger, or he would not do it. The driver, never believes that turning right in a right turn lane will swipe the cyclist passing on the right. People using short term thinking and taking the easy way out. It is hard to stay 'on' 100% of the time. That is why professional drivers and pilots have time limits and need to keep logs. Unfortunately for us non professional drivers, there really is nothing ensuring that we are not taking driving shortcuts.

I have zero issues with creating more safe cycling infrastructure. It is probably a good idea. Spend our tax money on it as it is for the common good.

However, at zero cost right now. Without any new laws. Just from common courtesy, can we give pedestrians a break cyclists and joggers?[/quote]

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