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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think that there must be someone in the Trump administration who believes that summer weather will mitigate the contagiousness of the virus.  The science on that is mixed, at best, with more scientists seeming to think it will not make a material difference.  In any event, [b]absent a vaccine[/b] (and there won't be one for 12-18 months), the virus would come roaring back in or around September.  But I honestly don't know what to do about a collapsing economy that seems to have little more going for it now than sales of food, toilet paper, and curbside delivery.  The elites ("ruling" class) will always do whatever it takes to remain on top of the socioeconomic pyramid as they see it.[/quote]

You are making a HUGE assumption that a vaccine will be developed that will be effective at protecting people from infection with covid19.

That's an enormous assumption because some diseases can't be prevented by vaccination. In 40 years, no effective vaccine against HIV has been developed. Yes, there are treatments that keep HIV infection at bay, but there's no vaccine and no cure.

There may never be an effective vaccine against covid19, so you can't count on a vaccine to end this pandemic. And you definitely can't count on a vaccine in the next year or so. Contact tracing, isolation and social distancing are all we have right now to fight this pandemic. Oh, and testing, testing, testing. [/quote]

Even a third grader could explain the basic differences between HIV and this. [/quote]

Ehh you could make the same case with the flu. There’s a vaccine but still multiple strains of it. [/quote]

It’s much better than nothing, no?[/quote]

As long as it’s not forced on the entire population or else you can’t go to work, travel, etc, I’m all for it.

But they better not force everyone to take it. I’m not anti-vaxx but those things are far from perfect. [/quote]

We'll have to see if a vaccine can be developed that is effective. That remains to be seen. You have to give the vaccine to a person, and that person has to develop enough of an immune response to fight off infection with covid19. And the vaccine can't cause terrible side effects or no one will take it, except people at extremely high risk of dying of covid19.

I hope a vaccine is created soon that works for everyone and has no side effects. I think that's very unlikely, but who knows? In the meantime, I think it's wishful thinking to depend on the development of an effective vaccine to end this pandemic. It can end before a vaccine is created if we make fundamental changes in our society. If people don't want to do that, then many more people will die of this virus before either a vaccine is developed or it burns its way through the population. I'm willing to endure fundamental changes to save lives. I don't want my elderly relatives to be sacrificed to this virus. I love them and would be very depressed if they died. That would affect my productivity for a long, long time. [/quote]

What fundamental changes?  Would these changes be reasonably possible for people who don’t live in spacious houses and can telework?  [/quote]

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