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[quote]NP here.  I don't know anyone who owns a business or has individual policies that pays less under Obamacare ACA. [/quote]

Well then you should meet more people because I am one (SB owner of 25 years).  You should also do the math properly -- some of the things now mandated couldn't be purchased by individuals AT ANY PRICE, such as pre-existing conditions, pediatric dental, etc.

But you go ahead and keep white-knighting those insurance companies.

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If folks are struggling to put enough money away for college clearly ridiculous insurance premiums under Obamacare are one of the reasons.
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...says the thing I just pulled out of my ass.[/quote]

You sound rude and crude. And I might add a bit uninformed about the details of insurance but that’s understandable because most people are.

Anyway, the ACA did in fact mandate an incredibly extensive (thus expensive) benefits package, which does of course relate to overall premium expenses. Most people can self-insure for pediatric dental and many  screening tests and spend much less per year than they do now for these benefits they’re paying for and often not using under the ACA.  T[b]he provider network behind ACA plans are also incredibly limited[/b], which makes for a frustrating patient experience.

Trump and the Republicans before him were very happy to sabotage the plan, but the Democrats were incredibly naïve to assume that the networks and market place would be robust within a couple years. They also willfully ignored the serious but unpopular projections by some economists about the price of these benefits packages. There is a ton of blame to go around regarding the ACA. [/quote]

All ACA providers have pulled out of our zip code.  Families like us have no option but to "go naked" (ins. terminology for taking the risk of going without insurance at all) or, if self-employed, setting up an employer plan, which we do at a cost of $30K a year.[/quote]

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