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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why exactly does anyone think he isn’t raping her at night - when he has every opportunity - and obviously has raging sexual (sick) attraction towards her?[/quote]
Anyone?[/quote]

I answered you. Because all boys are hormonal, all boys will probably try to get what they think is unnoticed gratification by wrestling or hugging if they aren’t stopped by parents who point out “it’s not unnoticed, you moron, stop”. But that is a far cry from raping a 10 year old. How do you not see this?! The parents need to speak up but the girl probably isn’t being raped, lord.[/quote]

Agree with this.  I have girl/boy twins and between 9 and 10 I definitely intercepted some wrestling.  Kids at that age don't know why they do things, only that "this is fun".  I can think of 2 or 3 times that I pulled them apart when they were lying against each other.  It was just horsing around but I was really, really, really quick to stop anything that mirrored something sexual even though at the time they may or may not have been getting any gratification from it.  If it looked bad, I ended it immediately.  Now at 13 they know exactly what is appropriate and what is not and would be horrified to be in such a compromising position with their sibling.  It would never occur to them to do it.  
I can see if OP's friend never policed the behavior when the boy was young that he would just keep on doing it.  Now whether he currently takes it further I don't know. I think at a minimum OP should have a heart-to-heart with her friend.  It would be 100% worth ending the friendship over this.  [/quote]

Keep in mind too that your kids were close in age.  Mine are the ages of the kids in the OP and my older child weighs 80 lbs more than the younger kid. The imbalance of physical power is huge. That her parents don't speak up or intercede when she said no in the past and says no now is a huge red flag.  Some parents are just freaking lazy and don't want to parent their kids.  [/quote]

I think twin mom hit the nail in the head. The 13 year old is clearly overstepping boundaries but that doesn’t make it sexual abuse. The parent needs to be a better parent and OP should start there even if it means her friend is offended. But the pitchforks coming out on here claiming if we don’t think this girl is being raped then we are delusional is just... scary. It’s like seeing real mob mentality come to life. [/quote]

Twin mom has twins.  This is a post-pubescent boy rubbing on his little sister, publicly, over her objections, who his parents then lock in a room with him every night with no supervision.  The parents are not good parents, this has gone too far already, and acting like people who are concerned for this girl's safety are a crazed mob instead of people who care about child abuse makes you look dismissive at best.[/quote]

They’re LOCKED in the bedroom together now?

And if you recall OP actually said the girl seemed happy with it/ didn’t seem to mind her brothers attention. And nowhere did she use the sexual phrase “rubbing on her”. This is what I mean by mob mentality. You’re making things up.[/quote]

No, OP said that the girl fights back but can't win, so she seems to disengage and go along with it because her No is not respected.    To quote:

"I don't know how she feels about it anymore. She sometimes be [b]resists but he's strong and always gets his way[/b], while parents just let them work things out. I[b] think the girl just goes along. Feels like there are no boundaries respected at all. If she says no he doesn't stop[/b] and the parents just think kids will work it out themselves."

I didn't put quote marks around rubbing on her, but here you go:

"Today we hung out together at the pool and[b] he would just pick her up and hold her close to his body and touch her like she's his toy the whole time we were there[/b]."  That's rubbing on her.  It's not a bear hug or innocent to hold your little sister against your body for the entire length of a pool party.  WTF is wrong with you, seriously?

She asked if the girl could sleep with another girl on the vacation and mom wouldn't hear it, so yes, she's forcing them in a room together.  And she doesn't help when the girl says no.  And she doesn't tell her son to respect boundaries.  YOU are making things up by pretending the little girl "seems happy with it" when that's the opposite of what OP said.  You are heavily invested in this little girl not getting help.  It's not a good look.[/quote]

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