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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There’s a difference between body positivity and HAES (/fatlogic).   The former makes sense.[/quote]
From the HAES website: “We’ve lost the war on obesity. Fighting fat hasn’t made the fat go away. And being thinner, even if we knew how to successfully accomplish it, will not necessarily make us healthier or happier. The war on obesity has taken its toll.
Extensive “collateral damage” has resulted: Food and body preoccupation, self-hatred, eating disorders, discrimination,
poor health, etc. Few of us are at peace with our bodies, whether because we’re fat or because we fear becoming fat.
 
Health at Every Size is the new peace movement.
 
It supports people of all sizes in addressing health directly by adopting healthy behaviors. It is an inclusive movement, recognizing that our social characteristics, such as our size, race, national origin, sexuality, gender, disability status, and other attributes, are assets, and acknowledges and challenges the structural and systemic forces that impinge on living well.”

The latter sounds like it makes sense, too.[/quote]

Just because you want to believe that becoming thinner when are obese won’t make you healthier doesn’t mean it’s true. But keep on repeating it to yourself until you die of diabetes or heart disease.[/quote]
 :lol: 
Why do you assume I’m fat, and gosh you jump quick-quick to the part where you kinda sound like you hope I die.

The entire point of these movements, start to finish, is that no person should have to hate themselves because of the body they’re in. It’s counterproductive to public health goals. Because you read that statistic above where fully 90% of people who lose weight regain it all. It’s reality that without surgery, or maybe fecal transplants in the not too distant future, people cannot lose weight. CICO is a myth, one that some believe in as hard as some believe in Young Earth creationism. For every one person who can make it happen (go, Jeff! That’s a lot of hard work and you look great!), there are nine who have worked equally as hard, but it’s the corporeal equivalent of trying to keep a dozen balls underwater and sooner or later they pop up. No one should have to hate themselves; everyone should love their body enough to practice good self care whether or not it results in weight loss, but because it makes them as healthy as their size allows. For someone who professes to be concerned about health (as evidenced by your all but wishing early death on an anonymous person), you should be banging the healthy at every size drum.

But what means has been covered on this thread, [i]a lot[/i]. Sometimes some people just like to beat up on someone with less power in order to feel virtuous. That doesn’t make them virtuous or their position correct, it makes them a bully.[/quote]

Omg, now staying that obese people are more susceptible to diabetes and heart disease is bullying. Literally you are the reason why people can’t stand HAES. [/quote]

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