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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Science can't affirmatively know or assert something until it’s empirically proven it; absent any such affirmative data, the true and proper scientific stance should be one that echoes Socrates' credo of "I know that I don't know.”

Without any affirmative scientific proof that God does not exist, the default position should be one of agnosticism--of "I don't know since I don't have enough data one way or another."[/quote]

or atheism -- which means not believing in god.  It's not  the opposite (knowing there is not a god) of agnostism (not knowing if there is a god).  No one knows, which is what an atheist would tell you.  Some believers would say they "know" there's a god.  But they don't know the same way they know other things.  They feel so strongly in their hearts that there is a god, that it feels like knowing to them.

For many people who don't believe, 'agnosticism" seems like a less harsh word.  Could be because atheism got a bad rap  because some atheisms spoke out freely about their lack of belief and their negative opinion about religious beliefs.  Not all feel that way.  The only thing one atheist is sure to have in common with another is that they do not believe in God.

Some people call themselves "agnostic atheists" - they don't know and they don't believe.[/quote]

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