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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] We have been giving ESOL and special education to Italians, Irish and others who immigrated in big numbers in the past too. [/quote]

I'm just responding to this - as a first-gen and an educator.

My family learned English ("off the boat" Italians) in night school and on their own.  It was "sink or swim" through the 1960s.  However, event though we formalized the process, my family didn't have the opportunity NOT to learn b/c nothing was translated for them. So they arrived poor, worked their ass*es off, and learned the language.

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So you are a brown person yourself. How can you now judge the Hispanic brown people? If at all anything Italian is the closest language to Spanish.

I think any immigrants are hardworking whether they are brown immigrants from Italy or Mx,  Or white immigrants from Sweden, Or black immigrants from Jamaica.
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Italians are not considered brown, and not all of us have olive complexions.

I am not judging; I am stating facts.  My family didn't have it easy coming over.  Once they arrived, they did everything they could to retain their culture w/in the home (and among their family and friends), but outside of the home, they were proud Americans.

You see - there came a point when building resilience and resourcefulness in people was replaced by enabling.  I see it in the school system.  We have created a Me Me nation where many are expecting handouts.  You don't build people up by giving them everything.

Enter through legal avenues.
Learn English.
Work your a** off.
Be a role model for your kids.

Not all people are the same.  I have had many students - majority Hispanic and African - who agree with me.  When you enter a new country, you bend for the country, as it's providing you opportunities you supposedly didn't have in your country of birth, right?  b/c if life was so good back home, why leave?

My family escaped poverty.  My father barely had a home; it was crumbling.  Christmas gits consisted of winter fruits. When he was alive, he had fond memories of Italy despite the obstacles that faced him, but he was proud of his accomplishments in the U. S.  (Mom was luckier in that she was a "middle class" Italian, but the family knew that they could move ahead in the States.)

So the neo-libs can preach it all they want!  You don't speak for all of us.  And that assumption that we're all the same will be a negative force in 2020. [/quote]

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