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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]the problem with this "it's only one night" BS is that these kids are NOT being held only one night.

Also, did people miss the part about the lice combs being used by MULTIPLE kids?  That is NOT OK.[/quote]

The specific facility without toothbrushes and soap is 24 hour or less processing center.[/quote]

My kids used the same lice comb. You have to clean it between uses.  Have you read that they're moving from kid to kid w/o sanitizing the combs in boiling water? [/quote]

If you treated your kids like this someone would call CPS. But you know that and are just trolling. [/quote]

Why would I troll?   I've called CPS on a few occasions.  I know what abuse is- physical, emotional, and sexual.

But you believe what you want.  I really don't care.

I'm still asking what you want them to do.  If there isn't enough space, for example, where do they sleep? And if they're in close quarters, they will continue to pass along lice and illnesses.  Sleeping on a cot won't stop the lice, which takes DAYS to remove. Sleeping on a cot won't stop the spread of illnesses.  Sleeping in close quarters won't prevent any sexual misconduct from occurring either.

I am sure these BP folks are frustrated and tired, and thus, taking some cruel measures.  Of course that's wrong, but this job - similar to some military experiences - comes with its own PTSD.  BP also have families - many of them - which means they themselves have to protect their health.

So it's easy to read a story in [i]The New Yorker,[/i] for example, and then make a generalization about all detention camp conditions and all BP.  I know, however, with 100% certainty that you would not last a day in that job.  I don't care how compassionate you THINK you are, but it's easy to become hardened b/c of unbearable and unmanageable situations. [/quote]

Um, cruelty is never ok.  Especially to kids.  It doesn't matter if someone has been cruel to you beforehand, that doesn't make it ok to take it out on others.  Especially kids.  If you feel like you have to, then you need to step away from the job.  I don't care how sympathetic to BP you THINK you are, lets see how you'd handle it if they were supervising YOUR kids.  I doubt you'd be so willing to give a pass to their cruelty.  At least, I hope you wouldn't.[/quote]

Then you pay more money to either hire more BP (b/c there are simply not enough) or find other for profit centers that are more efficient and humane.

And while you're at it, stop the abuse in foster care, too. But that's too close to home, I bet.

It's easy to pick a cause when it doesn't directly affect you b/c it's a thousand miles away.

No on is advocating for inhumane treatment.  But the hypocrisy is maddening.  These kids are entering with trauma, illness and lice (least of our worries), and if too many are coming in, a few BPs with limited resources cannot do a damn thing about it.  So preach it, hon!  But your words also don't mean a damn thing.[/quote]

Umm, YOU are advocating for inhumane treatment when you say  "Oh, those poor BP guards.  They have a tough job, so it's ok if they abuse children".  They shouldn't be apprehending these children if they can't house them without abusing them.[/quote]

I am realistic in how I view situations.  You're the one who's putting words into my mouth, which is not surprising to me.

I NEVER SAID it was fine to abuse children. As I've noted upthread, I have had far too many "conversations" with CPS in my lifetime.  However, I'd like to see the ratio of BP to children.

and this "apprehending these children if they can't house them w/o abusing them?"  WHAT?

What would you like them to do with these children who cross?  Many don't come with their parents.  And even if they did stay with their parents, how does that solve the problem of overcrowded conditions?  lice and illnesses being spread? Do you really think the BP are THAT abusive?

one broad stroke of the brush - They're all monsters!

Give me a break.[/quote]

DP.  Here's a novel idea:  if you're working at one of these facilities, how about the first glimpse you get of a crisis brewing involving children, you raise the alarm. If the overlords in Washington don't respond immediately, you put out a general call to the public for donations and help. So that at the very least you get adequate supplies.

But according to this article, border patrol will not accept donations and turns people away who show up at the camps with them:  https://www.texastribune.org/2019/06/24/texas-border-facility-donations-turned-away/[/quote]

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