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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The high IQ low processing speed child. I have one. She qualifies for extra time but she’s never used it. Her high intelligence more than compensates for her speed. She’s not slow because the SAT is easy. She will still score in the 99th percentile. That has always been the case in school. Only when the content is difficult does she become slow. But I would think that’s like everyone. [/quote] I'm one of the posters who has been stating that the SAT (in part) tests processing speed, and I absolutely believe that other kinds of intelligence compensate for low processing speed. That said, I have a hard time grasping how your child could actually have low processing speed, and yet get 99% on the SAT. My guess is that the low processing must be a function of attention with her, not actual cognitive ability. EVERYONE's processing speed slows down when the content gets more difficult or their focus wanes. At any rate, I also agree that processing speed is not the ultimate measure of intelligence or achievement. But I think that it's really on the colleges to design admissions policies that take this into account -- not to rely on the SAT score alone. [/quote] Low processing speed is not shorthand for cognitive ability. You use different instruments to test both. And for anyone cognitive ability is not determined on a timed test. Further to get a diagnosis of ADHD you must take other tests that look at working memory, long term memory, and retrieval, executive functioning, and consider the student's interactions with peers and family. An ethical psychologist will only give a diagnosis if there are deficits in 3 domains -- school, home and social interactions. There probably are unethical practitioners that take shortcuts and give a diagnosis for only lower than average processing speed who should be sanctioned and lose their licenses, and be prosecuted for insurance fraud if they provide a receipt to parents that falsifies results to be given to an insurer for reimbursement. [/quote] processing speed is absolutely a key component of cognitive ability. I'm sorry that people are in denial about that. certainly there are other aspects of intelligence and personality that can compensate. [/quote] Unfortunately, your own average cognitive ability prevents you from fully understanding how processing speed does and doesn't reflect one's intelligence. My DS is in the 99th percentile for cognitive ability. This is a fact. His processing speed is in the 4th percentile. His processing speed is slow because he processes an amount of information that blows away the amount your brain could ever comprehend and he is thinking deeply and clearly before coming to a conclusion. On absolutely any test of aptitude or straight up cognitive ability, you may answer the questions faster than him, but taking his own time, he will answer 100% of them correctly and intelligently, which you and most people (99% to be exact) won't do. Seriously, those of you who want to claim it's "unfair" should walk one day in the shoes of kids with LD's. It's awful. You scream about how the 1% have unfair advantages and act like you want to stick up for those who are disadvantaged, but then have zero sympathy for kids who are challenged. [/quote] Nobody is saying he doesn’t have challenges. All our kids do, btw, LD or not. I’ve never met a kid who was great at everything. The question is why does you ds get extra time? Let him do the SAT best he can. That a true representation of his cognitive ability. Like an above poster said. Why do you get to just throw out that part of his profile as inconsequential? And his cognitive ability includes Processing speed. So he’s not 99th percentile. I’m curious though. What percentile is he?[/quote]
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