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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]Excuse me? That's laughable. No, I'm not a Democrat. I'm not suggesting I read their minds and this is how I believe they feel. This is what they said, and the very reason this resolution even came to be.

And Jeff, with your eternal questioning line of, "Is there any reason....?" I did read her words, and I, like many others who are on her side, find them to be offensive. You're wasting your breath defending her. Is there any reason for Jews in her party to perceive her comments to be anti-Semitic when they 100% are not? Is this a good look for the party? You're saying this as if it's a fact. Is it possible you're not in the right position to decide that for them?[/quote]

Look, don't play the "only Jews can decide what is anti-Semitic" game. That is very tedious. As I've said earlier, this is not a question of interpretation. This is a simple case of her words not saying what her critics say they say. The only interpretation being done is by those who are spinning her actual words into a complete mischaracterization. Please quote from her talk at Busboys and Poets the words that you find to be offensive. Please show me the words and let's see what they actually say.

BTW, just the other day Rep. Jerry Nadler said that a tweet by Jim Jordan was anti-Semitic. Jordan has not received any significant criticism and none from Republicans. There was a Jewish poster in this forum saying that Nadler didn't count because he was left-wing and a token source. So much for letting Jews decide.
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All I'm saying is that a WHOLE LOT of Jewish people, for whom having a major disruption in their party is undesirable, are choosing (I suppose) to find her words offensive and anti-Semitic. Is it just more outrage culture? If Democrats are so whipped up by the outrage culture they have created that they can't even step back and interpret benign words the way they were intended, even when it's in their best interest to do so, then that's going to be the death of them. OTOH, if that's not what it is, perhaps you could just say that people feel the way they feel, and that her words aroused some sort of feelings in them that were negative and familiar. And if so, then there's a very good chance that the phrasing or something about her words makes them less innocent than you feel they are. If there are two distinct viewpoints on this within the Democratic party, it is clearly up for interpretation and far from factual.

When a group of Jewish leaders in MN met with her last year to tell her they were upset by things she had said, and the "Jews have hypnotized the world" comment was one among other things she had said, can we accept that their feelings and reasons were legitimate? We do not know what their other examples were. [/quote]

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