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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Haven't read the whole thread but I can easily see how someone can believe in God despite an imperfect world. You just assume that God is not all-benevolent. Humans have existed for millennia with God and Gods that are vindictive, flawed, have weaknesses, and have cruel and immoral tendencies. [b]It's really not that difficult of a concert since we tend to anthropomorphize dieties and so many of these characteristics are familiarly human[/b].[/quote] Not the Abrahamic God. There is nothing pagan, human-like (even His anger and His love are not human-like), and familiar about Him. That is why the Abrahamic faiths are markedly different than other religions.[/quote] Ummm...he looks just like a human and he is quite human and flawed in the Old Testament. He is absolutely anthropomorphized. Good grief.[/quote] No He is not. He is completely different than pagan deities that you are thinking of. Abrahamic God was/is the only god that was/is monotheistic and omnipotent among all other deities of that region or any other region for that matter.[/quote] So, you don't understand the word "anthropomorphize" and completely unable to view your religion (your belief in the "Abrahamic God") objectively. Monotheism and omnipotence are irrelevant.[/quote] I understand perfectly (without being patronizing like you). But you obviously haven't read or understood the Bible and are basing your judgments on what you heard second hand (from media, neighbors, etc). "Human" attributes that you think of such as God's anger, love, judgment, and punishment in the Old Testament are so not human-like. You would be shocked and transformed if you personally experienced that anger or love. It is NOTHING like human anger or love. [/quote] I’ve read the Bible and I have probably had more religious education from a scholarly perspective than you. Stomping your feet and repeating false crap doesn’t make it true. Then again, I’m not sure what I expected from arguing with a religious nut job. Adios.[/quote] Gosh, maybe you should realize you chose to come to a religion forum and [b]debate religious people[/b]? What were you expecting, people to bow to your values because you’ve “read a lot?” Talk about arrogance.[/quote] I don’t know if you have noticed but I am not the only poster here, and not one of my posts have referenced blasphemy. Not pp, but "I can't discuss/think about that because it's blasphemous" is not a debate. It's a dead end wall of someone refusing to critically thing about things and engage questions. [/quote][/quote] My apologies. The anonymity makes it difficult to keep track sometimes. There is at least one poster who repeatedly says that it's blasphemous to essentially "go there" with questions about God's qualities and creations (including evilness/suffering), which you must agree is ridiculous to bring to the table for discussion and debate. Fine for their personal belief - but a pointless dead end on matters of discussion. [/quote] I can’t agree. If the poster embraces a religion that includes a rejection of blasphemy, it’s an entirely valid point. [/quote] It's a valid point for cementing their belief system. It is not a valid point with regards to debate or discussion. [/quote] I disagree.[/quote] We don't care.[/quote]
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