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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]His words were not exactly vague. He listed a number of items that are of fundamental interest to senators from many states, red or blue. Participants on this forum can spend countless hours trying to piece together everything what has or has not been promised. The point is he promised nothing. He expressed an intention. That was it. [/quote]

Really?  If McConnell "promised nothing" and it was all just vague intention without any real meat, then let's walk through the options:

1. [i]Dems just gave up.[/i]  Schumer and all the Democrats knowingly backed down for a promise of "nothing"!  They just gave up after all that fighting!  That doesn't seem likely.  They dug in for a fight and then just got distracted and gave up?  Nah.

2. [i]Dems are just stupid.[/i]  Schumer and all the Democrats were somehow too stupid to realize McConnell's promise was vague.[/i], and posts like yours were the first time they realized McConnell's on-camera promise is vague and squishy.  That doesn't seem likely.

3. [i]Dems got scared.[/i]  Maybe Dems got scared because they realized public opinion was against them?  Nope, that doesn't make sense because polling suggests the public blamed Trump and the GOP.

More in new poll blame congressional Republicans for shutdown than Dems
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/370051-poll-more-blame-congressional-republicans-for-shutdown
Trump, GOP lawmakers shoulder more blame for government shutdown: Poll
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/22/donald-trump-gop-lawmakers-shoulder-more-blame-gov/
More Americans blame the GOP for the government shutdown
https://nypost.com/2018/01/22/republicans-shoulder-the-blame-for-government-shutdown-poll/
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/21/government-shutdown-2018-polls-blame-353728

None of those options make sense to me, which suggests Dems got something more than that 20 seconds of fluff that McConnell blew on camera.

Do you see other options?[/quote]

Schumer was pressured by other Democrats who were not willing to go the the mat for a long term shut down.  There are ten Democratic senators who are up for reelection in 2018 from red states or states that Trump won and they were not about to jeopardize their election chances for the sake of a shut down to help illegals.[/quote]

Yes, and not only red state Dems. Flake and Graham bailed. Blue state Dems who need disaster funding, defense spending and the like. McConnell made it abundantly clear that everything was open for discussion. BTW, I am outraged by the GOP. Schumer had to try to scrape together people to try to defeat it. [/quote]

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