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[b]Again, what does your "faulting the kid" really do here?[/b] Do you realize how ignorant you are about addiction? If it were as easy as the kid waking up and saying "I am not going to do drugs anymore," then there wouldn't be a drug problem.  The personal responsibility required to kick an addiction is nothing at all like the personal responsibility required to say, study for a final.  [/quote]

It makes that PP feel better about themselves, for some reason. That's what it does.[/quote]

[b]It actually does.[/b]  I'm frankly sick of people blaming everyone else for their problems.  Acknowledge that you raised a kid who made bad choices and is now an addict.  That doesn't mean he/she doesn't deserve help, doesn't deserve to get better, but it does mean you stop living in denial and making everyone else to blame so you can feel better about yourself.[/quote]

Well, that's good, I guess.[/quote]

Right, like who among did not make what in retrospect were some really bad choices when we were teens and in college? There really is nothing that happened during that period about which you do not say to yourself, "What was I thinking?" Making bad choices and then realizing the consequences you lacked foresight to see when you made them is actually part of becoming an adult.  Too bad that when it's oxy it can have such devastating consequences.[/quote]

Actually, (I'm the PP you are responding to) this is the sort of discussion we should be having - yes, kids make BAD decisions sometimes and it is up to us to help them avoid these mistakes.  Is it something parents can control 100%?  Obviously not and obviously this is a distressing thing for us parents.  But making up self-serving lies about how it's not your kids' fault or infantilizing them to the point of comparing to toddlers and wall sockets are just tricks you do to make yourself feel better.  Face it, teenagers have to seek out dealers and opportunities to use - they are making an effort to get high.  No one is holding them down and shoving a needle into their arms.[/quote]

So what's your next step?  The REAL meaning behind your statement is that you want parents to excoriate their own children as worthless addicts. What do you think this kind of punitive orientation is going to help with, exactly? Personally I don't care how a parent explains their child's situation to themselves, as long as they support their child in getting treatment.  Why is it SO important to you that parents make a confession of their/their children's moral failing?  Again NOBODY DISPUTES that addicts make a conscious choice to use drugs.  We know that.  You're caught up in the starting point that everyone has moved past ... and this says volumes more about you than the issues. [/quote]

Your personal insults and defensiveness says way more about you than me.

You don't think acknowledging realities behind addiction - especially when talking about the personal choices involved - is helpful to overcoming the problem?  Instead you'll want to shout everyone else down - blame the government, blame the schools, anything but your kid's poor decision making (and what this really means is blaming yourself)?  You think this is helpful instead?  Go right ahead.  I'm sure your denial and inability to deal with problems head on had nothing to do with your kid getting involved with drugs.[/quote]

Whoa! Where did PP say she was blaming government or schools?  She is just saying trying to ascribe blame is unhelpful and does nothing to address how parents should help an addict child.[/quote]

You haven't read the whole thread then.

It's mind boggling that something as simple as acknowledging personal responsibility [b]when you go out, buy drugs, and stick these said drugs into yourself for fun[/b] is something so vehemently rejected.

You people are unbelievable.  [/quote]

it's mindboggling that you can't accept that NOBODY HAS ARGUED THERE IS NO PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY involved.  I'm just saying that that's not the end of the story in terms of preventing and treating addiction.  [/quote]

1. People have argued/implied that kids do not bear personal responsibility.  Read the thread.

2. No one said accepting personal responsibility in some cases of addiction was the end story in terms of prevention or treatment.  But I will argue that it is a crucial element. [/quote]

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