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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I would trust your gut. My DC is in Dwight (another school that is being frowned upon by the former Urban Baby crowd) and I am very happy with the level of academics in K-4 (I am aware things may change in middle and high school). Small groups for reading and math, hard core phonics (no "balanced literacy" nonsense), Singapore math with additional challenges for more advanced students, bi-annual standardized testing to monitor progress in math and literacy (NWEA), entirely normal parents (with plenty of international families including mine). I am glad I discounted second hand feedback and ignored the "dumb white idiots getting high together" label. DC consistently scores in 97-99 percentiles in NWEA (with zero supplementation or coaching) so the school must be doing something right.[/quote]

To be honest, while your description of Dwight sounds perfectly fine, it also sounds more-or-less identical to what my youngest kid is currently experiencing at a public elementary school, though admittedly the class sizes are a lot larger (but that'll no longer be a problem in 2 years) - small groups, no 'balanced literacy,' Singapore math with advanced challenges (including Math Olympiad), thrice-yearly MAP tests, normal parents...[/quote]

... which shows that different schools will work for different children and it makes sense to trust intuition and prioritize first hand experience over hearsay.

I have got multiple friends with kids in local public schools and while they all seem happy with their choices, they also all supplement school with extra academics (either RSM or, more recently, AoPS). I am not in favor of this for my DC. School already takes plenty of time and adding 2 extra hours of classes (especially over weekends) and overloading kids with extra homework at elementary age seems too much. All DC's math knowledge comes from school and I am quite pleased with the result. It is entirely possible that some public schools offer the same (or better?) quality of academics but I went with my gut and I am now happy I did.[/quote]

You travel in very different circles than I do. I'm an uptown public school parent. I know numerous kids (including one of my own) who went to top Manhattan gen ed schools (elementary and middle) who did not not supplement at all - normal kids who did sports, music, art, etc. and went to regular camp, visiting family or whatever in the summer. They then went on to do great on SHSAT and/or ISEE (they might have done some tutoring for this), get into top SHSAT schools and/or very good private schools, and did very well in these schools. Not sure where you are hearing about all these kids supplementing.
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Well... your post may be reenforcing the point I was trying to make to the OP. I may have stereotypes about elementary public schools. Other posters may have stereotypes about Columbia Grammar. I do not think non-CGPS school parents can authoritatively claim that OP will be better off in one of the local public schools. If she really liked CGPS's approach to academics, she should probably trust her intuition and try to chat to current parents instead of relying on second hand opinions or hearsay. FWIW, I do not know CGPS at all so I cannot express any opinion on the school academics.

On supplementation - I fully acknowledge my view is subjective but popularity of RSM, AoPS and other similar programs has gone through the roof since Covid. If your kids are already in SHSAT or a private high school, they might not have caught the latest trend. Of course, I do not know all the parents - I can only talk about people I know personally - but both RSM and AoPS keep growing at an elementary level - a reflection of a strong demand. [/quote]

Two points:

1. If most people you know have their kids in those programs, I suggest you meet new people. Most parents I know who do that are insufferable.

2. My point in noting all the kids I know doing well without having gone through those programs is to show that they are not necessary to do well in the best high schools. There are some kids at these high schools who did those programs. And from what I know they are doing no better than those who didn't (though I admittedly don't have a lot of data points on this so I could be wrong). So I'm not really sure what these people are accomplishing other than denying their children a well-rounded, joyful, happy childhood. And please don't tell me that advanced math gives them joy (not directing this specifically at you!).[/quote]

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