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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There’s a lot I find incredibly depressing about Walmart. But [b]in many communities there would be no groceries, no pharmacy, nowhere to get eyeglasses or books or socks or underwear or warm coats or school supplies, without it.[/b]

Yes, that’s a sign of other deep problems. But it’s also the reality for many people. And I dont think calling the people who shop there — many of whom have been utterly, devastatingly left behind by greater economic forces — is especially helpful, let alone kind. [/quote]

That is because they came in and put everyone else out of business.[/quote]

PP. Well, yes. This is true (amid other reasons for the hollowing out of communities — from NAFTA to the decimation of rural healthcare providers, to the industrialization of agriculture) As I say, it’s a sign of other, deeper problems.

But nobody did anything over many decades to protect these communities from all those changes, and now here we are.[/quote]

And the people in these communities did nothing to protect themselves, and continue to do nothing to help themselves. That’s why MAGA has been able to take hold - Americans are self-destructive morons.[/quote]

How do you suggest they should have protected themselves from the closures of thousands of hospitals and other health care institutions, which are often the largest employers in town? [/quote]

They could have started by not voting for the folks who closed the hospitals.[/quote]

Well, the hospitals have been closing since the 1980s. Literally thousands of them, sometimes with only days notice. That's just hospitals, too -- they've lost an array of other health providers, too. 
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And as a reminder, the dems were in charge during NAFTA.

To be clear: I am absolutely not a "both sides" person. I know that the modern GOP is uniquely (mind-bogglingly) destructive, and will actively harm these people. I also think the GOP has been on the track of destroying American middle class and community life since at least Reagan (and with agricultural policy, Nixon).

But saying, "they deserve it because they voted wrong" is neither fair nor historically accurate. As it happens, Iowa voted for democrats in six of the seven presidential elections between 1988-2012. Same with Michigan. Wisconsin voted for democrats in all seven of these presidential elections.

BTW, you know what would help rural hospitals and health infrastructure? Medicare for All, as well as a law that holds private equity (which strips community institutions for parts and leaves only a graveyard of bones) to standards when they invest in institutions that are essential to a community's well being (and literally lifesaving). [/quote]

None of what you wrote contradicts what I said. Rural America continues to overwhelmingly vote Republican. It’s completely fair to say at this point that they’re getting the government they deserve.[/quote]

It’s this lack of empathy and othering that is so sad and historically out of character for the left. It’s not as black and white as you paint it out to be. Maybe you should get out of your blue bubble and spend some time in these rural areas and even a Walmart or two. You’re very out of touch with reality. [/quote]

Grew up in a rural area and worked at Walmart. Thanks for playing.

These AHs are getting exactly what they deserve. Unfortunately they’re bringing the rest of us down with them.[/quote]

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