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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Your friend showed you her child's COLLEGE APPLICATION? That's bonkers. These poor children.
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+1. What an invasion of privacy. [/quote]

OP here. My friend shared it with me. She's shocked by the subpar results so far and my kid (without a counselor but I do hang out here, subscribe to App Nation, and listen to a TON of podcasts) has had incredible results, given test optional.

It's one of my closest friends. I adore her kids. The positioning was just all off. 
It's almost like the counselor just let the kids do what they wanted. 
She's paying A LOT (higher end for what was quoted here). She had no idea the common app was poorly done.

WHAT ABOUT PARENTING? "Let the kids so what they want" How about the parent steps in and says - this list may be over ambitious. This is blaming a consultant for parents being uninvolved.

Also your self-congratulatory tone is gross. Because YOU read some articles and listened to podcasts you are suddenly an expert? Your daughter did great because of YOU? Check yourself, lady.

Kids need help with applications for varying reasons - ADHD, dyslexia and other L.D's among them. One of my kids needed help for that reason and I didn't blame the counselor if he did not get into school X or Y.

ALSO Counselors can only do so much with delusional kids and parents. You seem to be under the impression the counselor gets kids in. This is not the case. They are there to advise and yes, help their application shine. But I know for a fact, from having three kids of my own go through the process- the ultimate results are often random. Some of the best applicants don't succeed and some weird acceptances work out.

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