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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The vast majority of VA wineries/wines are mediocre - there are only a small number of exceptions.  You don't have to take that comment personally or peg the person saying it as snobby.  It's a simple fact that the quality of a wine is highly dependent on the climate of the region (which is why California regions such as Napa, Sonoma, Paso Robles etc produce most of the best red wines in the US).

That doesn't mean you won't find wines you like at VA wineries, and there are many VA wineries that serve good food and have beautiful scenery.  But relative to the better/best wines/wine producers in the US, most VA wineries are weak.[/quote]

+1  I have spent a fair bit of time at VA wineries and most of the wines aren't good.  Almost none are worth what they want to charge you for them ($40 for a super tannic red with half an inch of sediment in the bottle!  What a bargain!).  But the views are nice, being outdoors is nice, and you can usually find something drinkable.  Many often have live music and good food, plus the outdoor fireplaces/-pits that OP is looking for - it's a nice environment even if it's not world class wine.  I like to get a Norton or Traminette because you don't see those often in other parts of the country, or whatever the house blend is - usually a bit sweet for my taste, but at least cheaper by the glass.[/quote]

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