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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]JD Vance was professionally adopted by celebrity Amy Chua, who with her husband runs a weird little coven at Yale LAw School. He broke into the pseudo intellectual celebrity circuit, which got him a fake job at a VC.

These people have no skills except hobnobbing.[/quote]

Socializing effectively is a sign of high interpersonal intelligence.

E.Q. is more important for career success past a certain base level of smarts.[/quote]

Interesting, I am a very personable and have always made friends easily, but I’m not conventionally attractive (basically by buddies say I belong in the lab since I look like Igor — I mean not deformed, but short with exaggerated features). Vance is super tall, which always helps having presence, but I am not sure how good looking? His wife is beautiful so I have to think that speaks a bit to his looks.

I guess finding a mentor was a crucial bit of sounds like; I think I always felt like I didn’t belong so was somewhat shy around authority — maybe that was his skill, he carried the confidence to be noticed by Chua?[/quote]

Vance is at least an average looking clean-cut guy which is good enough, I would say he's actually pretty smart (and sometimes comes across as  seekingly intellectual), he was in the military, and he managed to make something out of himself.  All big positives compared to wrinkly geriatric born-rich guys of various flavors.  The bar is low.

I would say that Vance probably has excellent social skills.  Most prominent politicians do, even if you don't like them or their ideas at all.  It's certainly not all Amy Chua's doing.  In fact, she and her husband got kind of cancelled at Yale recently due to personal scandals.

I think Donald Trump recognized Vance as a young "comer".  Maybe he miscalculated about the political benefits, but Donald Trump is also good at reading people.

Even though I would never vote for Trump, I felt better when Vance got put on the ticket.  Because he reads and thinks and I feel like he could read a CIA briefing and not turn around and share it with a golf buddy over cocktails.  Trump told last go-around's VP candidates that they could run everything behind the scenes.  What nervy young man wouldn't sign up to be defacto POTUS?[/quote]

So the career guidance I need to work on social skills and building mentor relationships. [/quote]

Yes.  How old are you (decade-wise)?

The older I get, the more I see the impacts of personal relationships on careers.

Vance makes no secret of the fact that his wife trained him in etiquette/social niceties.

As a woman, I can say that it's a very profound experience to help someone close to you develop and succeed. This instinct often expresses in the form of mothering but can also be something found in a young couple's relationship.  It doesn't always work out well in marriages but can be very bonding.

Vance may also give off confidence.  That's a winning trait.  However, my guess is that it is his intellectual side and his appreciation that won him the wife that he has.  He was much more of a nobody when she met him.

So...TL; DR for you...do you show appropriate, engaging confidence?  And do you have a bright partner who teaches you things, fosters your success, and is wise counsel for your ambitions? [/quote]

Hmm, interesting take. I guess my mis step was marrying someone with my same background — we are both strivers from poor families and ended up as govt scientists.  Neither of us knew how to navigate these social waters; we hoped to advance from hard work and smarts, but clearly the wrong kind of smarts. [/quote]

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